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Re: Strrange noise on certain mp3's of kazaa (lite)

Posted by watchit on Mon, 09/01/2003 - 18:51.

go to the "mp3" discussion board, please

: i've been downloading songs of guns and rose and john mayer, but the first few songs have this strange noise on them after about 30sec and they last about 2min what ruins the whole song. Is their anything i can do to get this of or do i have to look for an other mp3 (or choise of music)
: Thanks for your help
: Malicq

Re: Strrange noise on certain mp3's of kazaa (lite)

Posted by MarkS on Mon, 09/01/2003 - 18:27.

lol you might try buying the cd - YOURE BUSTED!!!!
expect a letter from riaa tomorrow

: i've been downloading songs of guns and rose and john mayer, but the first few songs have this strange noise on them after about 30sec and they last about 2min what ruins the whole song. Is their anything i can do to get this of or do i have to look for an other mp3 (or choise of music)
: Thanks for your help
: Malicq

Re: Strrange noise on certain mp3's of kazaa (lite)

Posted by Imperator on Wed, 12/10/2003 - 21:42.

Bullshit! The record company's have bots that garble the music while you download it somehow. Just annoying. Try another and it will be fine. The RIAA is only threathening. They do nothing. They can screw themselves.

: lol you might try buying the cd - YOURE BUSTED!!!!
: expect a letter from riaa tomorrow

: : i've been downloading songs of guns and rose and john mayer, but the first few songs have this strange noise on them after about 30sec and they last about 2min what ruins the whole song. Is their anything i can do to get this of or do i have to look for an other mp3 (or choise of music)
: : Thanks for your help
: : Malicq

Re: Strrange noise on certain mp3's of kazaa (lite)

Posted by kazaa on Sat, 11/08/2003 - 20:00.

: lol you might try buying the cd - YOURE BUSTED!!!!
: expect a letter from riaa tomorrow

: : i've been downloading songs of guns and rose and john mayer, but the first few songs have this strange noise on them after about 30sec and they last about 2min what ruins the whole song. Is their anything i can do to get this of or do i have to look for an other mp3 (or choise of music)
: : Thanks for your help
: : Malicq

Re: Strrange noise on certain mp3's of kazaa (lite)

Posted by Jake on Sun, 11/09/2003 - 02:06.

just make sure you delete the corrupted files so they don't spread. and if you have Kazaa Lite use the IP Blocker Updater tool frequently to block the RIAA IP's that send out the corrupted data.

Re: Strrange noise on certain mp3's of kazaa (lite)

Posted by Ashcroft on Mon, 01/26/2004 - 15:54.

How do you get to the IP Blocker Updater tool on K.L.??? Thanks!

: just make sure you delete the corrupted files so they don't spread. and if you have Kazaa Lite use the IP Blocker Updater tool frequently to block the RIAA IP's that send out the corrupted data.

Re: Strrange noise on certain mp3's of kazaa (lite)

Posted by Anonymous on Tue, 09/23/2003 - 13:30.

: lol you might try buying the cd - YOURE BUSTED!!!! : expect a letter from riaa tomorrow : : i've been downloading songs of guns and rose and john mayer, but the first few songs have this strange noise <a href='http://www.geocities.com/dffsernkm'>o</a>n them after about 30sec and they last about 2min what ruins the whole song. Is their anything i can do to get this of or do i have to look for an other mp3 (or choise of music) : : Thanks for your help : : Malicq

Re: Strrange noise on certain mp3's of kazaa (lite)

Posted by Knuckle50 on Wed, 08/27/2003 - 00:56.

same thing has been happening to me and a few of my friends. my friend runs regular kazaa and has the same problem. i havent got any idea why this happens and how to stop it, but it happenes to all songs, not just from that artist

Re: Strrange noise on certain mp3's of kazaa (lite)

Posted by vietsoldier on Fri, 08/29/2003 - 19:52.

I get them too. I smell conspiracy. Either the Kazaa networks are trying to screw over Kazaa lite users or maybe the music industry is trying to sabotage our mp3 downloads by putting up stuffed up mp3 on servers with the same checksum as proper ones. Either of the two seem plausable to me

: same thing has been happening to me and a few of my friends. my friend runs regular kazaa and has the same problem. i havent got any idea why this happens and how to stop it, but it happenes to all songs, not just from that artist

Re: Strrange noise on certain mp3's of kazaa (lite)

Posted by Dave (via moderator) on Thu, 09/11/2003 - 21:14.

These certainly are no accident. They are deployed in vast numbers by the RIAA and other industry parties to put us off downloading. I've even had them on the Doobie Brothers track, Rambin' man. You'd have thought they'd have had their money's worth from that one by now !

What I would like to know is if there is a program that I can get to run through all my MP3s and report on which ones contain the noise burst. I always try to listen to everyting I download immediately but there may be some that have slipped through. I really don't want to discover them at 100 watts at a party !

Re: Recognising corrupt files at download

Posted by FreeRider on Sun, 09/28/2003 - 11:48.

: What I would like to know is if there is a program that I can get to run through all my MP3s and report on which ones contain the noise burst.

I don't know of such a program, but found out how to recognise a corrupt file while downloading it:
If you download via analog modem (V90), you can assume that you will never have a higher download speed than the hardware bandwith of approximately 5 KB/sec.
If the speed goes above that level, you can recognise that the file is corrupt. I think corrupt files contain a kind of data that can easily be compressed by hardware, so your analog modem will use its built in hardware compression which can speed up downloads from e.g. 5.2 KB/sec to 11.2 KB/sec.

Re: Recognising corrupt files at download

Posted by HeyAll on Fri, 04/02/2004 - 01:53.

I've also downloaded some of these strange noise mp3's. However, I have a cable modem and I've noticed that I also get very high download speeds. Usually, I'll download one of those songs at 100 to 140 Kb/s versus 30 to 60 Kb/s for normal songs without the noise. I'm guessing that the same type of compression exists for cable modems.

: : What I would like to know is if there is a program that I can get to run through all my MP3s and report on which ones contain the noise burst.

: I don't know of such a program, but found out how to recognise a corrupt file while downloading it:
: If you download via analog modem (V90), you can assume that you will never have a higher download speed than the hardware bandwith of approximately 5 KB/sec.
: If the speed goes above that level, you can recognise that the file is corrupt. I think corrupt files contain a kind of data that can easily be compressed by hardware, so your analog modem will use its built in hardware compression which can speed up downloads from e.g. 5.2 KB/sec to 11.2 KB/sec.

Try mp3shield

Posted by El Morte on Mon, 04/05/2004 - 10:54.

: : : What I would like to know is if there is a program that I can get to run through all my MP3s and report on which ones contain the noise burst.

It's free. I've only been using it for like 10 minutes now but it works. From their website:

"MP3 Shield is a plug-and-play application designed to rapidly scan vast MP3 collection for corruptions and to automatically detect corrupted MP3 files while being downloaded, thus protecting your music collection. MP3 Shield integrates seamlessly into any Kazaa Media Desktop client to automatically scan MP3 files that are being downloaded and filter out corrupted songs."

Re: Recognising corrupt files at download

Posted by edga on Fri, 11/21/2003 - 06:26.

Who cares, the majority of Kazaa users are broadband users.

Re: Strrange noise on certain mp3's of kazaa (lite)

Posted by Geoff on Thu, 08/21/2003 - 20:33.

Chances are you've downloaded a corrupt file. Nothing you can do about that.

: i've been downloading songs of guns and rose and john mayer, but the first few songs have this strange noise on them after about 30sec and they last about 2min what ruins the whole song. Is their anything i can do to get this of or do i have to look for an other mp3 (or choise of music)
: Thanks for your help
: Malicq

Re: Strrange noise on certain mp3's of kazaa (lite)

Posted by I know the truth. on Fri, 11/14/2003 - 18:40.

: Chances are you've downloaded a corrupt file. Nothing you can do about that.

: : i've been downloading songs of guns and rose and john mayer, but the first few songs have this strange noise on them after about 30sec and they last about 2min what ruins the whole song. Is their anything i can do to get this of or do i have to look for an other mp3 (or choise of music)
: : Thanks for your help
: : Malicq

The freaking music industry is doing it! Isn't it strange that the more famous the artist the more likely that you will get a file with this stupid irritating noise?

Re: Strrange noise on certain mp3's of kazaa (lite)

Posted by Peter W. on Sun, 09/14/2003 - 11:53.

I've had this problem in a lot of files that i downloaded. I thought that could be a problem with my hardware or software. But I tested it on another compurter and it still happening.

Re: Strrange noise on certain mp3's of kazaa (lite)

Posted by Malicq on Fri, 08/22/2003 - 14:06.

: Do you know a program that doesn't share these kind of files

: Chances are you've downloaded a corrupt file. Nothing you can do about that.

: : i've been downloading songs of guns and rose and john mayer, but the first few songs have this strange noise on them after about 30sec and they last about 2min what ruins the whole song. Is their anything i can do to get this of or do i have to look for an other mp3 (or choise of music)
: : Thanks for your help
: : Malicq

Re: Strrange noise on certain mp3's of kazaa (lite)

Posted by marie on Mon, 09/01/2003 - 15:44.

: : Do you know a program that doesn't share these kind of files

: : Chances are you've downloaded a corrupt file. Nothing you can do about that.

: : : i've been downloading songs of guns and rose and john mayer, but the first few songs have this strange noise on them after about 30sec and they last about 2min what ruins the whole song. Is their anything i can do to get this of or do i have to look for an other mp3 (or choise of music)
: : : Thanks for your help
: : : Malicq

I had the same thing happen to me ..I downloaded 4 coies of the same song - fighting to remember the name of it ugh! But anyway - ALL 4 copies after about 30 seconds into the song started making a really weird noise and of course the song is unuseable. It's an 80s song..wish I could remember the name, but that is the only one (so far anyway) that I have had the problem with. So you're not alone, it's not you..someone is doing something to the songs. OH OH OH! The song was Say You Say Me by Lionnel Ritchie - go to Kaaza and download it and try it..you'll see what I mean ..they ALL make that noise. I got a copy of it from a friend instead and converted it to Mp3 ..Good luck!
*hugz* Marie

TIP

Posted by tip on Mon, 05/31/2004 - 14:34.

TIP:
- Try to download files with less users sharing
- Try to download files with exact bit rates: 128, 160, 192...
- Try to download files with Upper and lower cases in the name...

: : : Do you know a program that doesn't share these kind of files

: : : Chances are you've downloaded a corrupt file. Nothing you can do about that.

: : : : i've been downloading songs of guns and rose and john mayer, but the first few songs have this strange noise on them after about 30sec and they last about 2min what ruins the whole song. Is their anything i can do to get this of or do i have to look for an other mp3 (or choise of music)
: : : : Thanks for your help
: : : : Malicq

:
: I had the same thing happen to me ..I downloaded 4 coies of the same song - fighting to remember the name of it ugh! But anyway - ALL 4 copies after about 30 seconds into the song started making a really weird noise and of course the song is unuseable. It's an 80s song..wish I could remember the name, but that is the only one (so far anyway) that I have had the problem with. So you're not alone, it's not you..someone is doing something to the songs. OH OH OH! The song was Say You Say Me by Lionnel Ritchie - go to Kaaza and download it and try it..you'll see what I mean ..they ALL make that noise. I got a copy of it from a friend instead and converted it to Mp3 ..Good luck!
: *hugz* Marie

Re: Strrange noise on certain mp3's of kazaa (lite)

Posted by Maestro on Thu, 01/22/2004 - 19:49.

Same thing happened to me. Something has been done by the record labels to render these downloads useless.

Re: Strrange noise on certain mp3's of kazaa (lite)

Posted by Steve on Wed, 01/21/2004 - 08:31.

: : : Do you know a program that doesn't share these kind of files

: : : Chances are you've downloaded a corrupt file. Nothing you can do about that.

: : : : i've been downloading songs of guns and rose and john mayer, but the first few songs have this strange noise on them after about 30sec and they last about 2min what ruins the whole song. Is their anything i can do to get this of or do i have to look for an other mp3 (or choise of music)
: : : : Thanks for your help
: : : : Malicq

:
: I had the same thing happen to me ..I downloaded 4 coies of the same song - fighting to remember the name of it ugh! But anyway - ALL 4 copies after about 30 seconds into the song started making a really weird noise and of course the song is unuseable. It's an 80s song..wish I could remember the name, but that is the only one (so far anyway) that I have had the problem with. So you're not alone, it's not you..someone is doing something to the songs. OH OH OH! The song was Say You Say Me by Lionnel Ritchie - go to Kaaza and download it and try it..you'll see what I mean ..they ALL make that noise. I got a copy of it from a friend instead and converted it to Mp3 ..Good luck!
: *hugz* Marie

It happens to neveer happened to me until recently but it only happens to really recent songs. It happened me when I tried to download sinorita, voice within, where is the love and other recent new songs

Re: Strrange noise on certain mp3's of kazaa (lite)

Posted by ry on Sun, 01/18/2004 - 22:40.

Ya i use kazaa lite and when i donwload moslty any clapton like layla, Cocaine, and wonderful tonite they all have the wierd noise, what is it?

Re: Strrange noise on certain mp3's of kazaa (lite)

Posted by coco on Thu, 12/25/2003 - 14:22.

: : : Do you know a program that doesn't share these kind of files

: : : Chances are you've downloaded a corrupt file. Nothing you can do about that.

: : : : i've been downloading songs of guns and rose and john mayer, but the first few songs have this strange noise on them after about 30sec and they last about 2min what ruins the whole song. Is their anything i can do to get this of or do i have to look for an other mp3 (or choise of music)
: : : : Thanks for your help
: : : : Malicq

:
: I had the same thing happen to me ..I downloaded 4 coies of the same song - fighting to remember the name of it ugh! But anyway - ALL 4 copies after about 30 seconds into the song started making a really weird noise and of course the song is unuseable. It's an 80s song..wish I could remember the name, but that is the only one (so far anyway) that I have had the problem with. So you're not alone, it's not you..someone is doing something to the songs. OH OH OH! The song was Say You Say Me by Lionnel Ritchie - go to Kaaza and download it and try it..you'll see what I mean ..they ALL make that noise. I got a copy of it from a friend instead and converted it to Mp3 ..Good luck!
: *hugz* Marie

There are certain people that insert noise to discourage P2p downloading.
Coco

Re: Strrange noise on certain mp3's of kazaa (lite)

Posted by Vane on Wed, 10/29/2003 - 17:54.

Same thing, noise during songs by Madonna and Christina Aguilera.

Re: Strrange noise on certain mp3's of kazaa (lite)

Posted by Blane Christenson on Thu, 10/09/2003 - 18:10.

I've been having the same problem. Mostly with new songs like "Eat you Alive" from LimpBizkit. If there is a corrupt file how do I get rid of it? To I scan it for viruses? My mail is sk8terwhitey@hotmail.com please let me know.

: : : Do you know a program that doesn't share these kind of files

: : : Chances are you've downloaded a corrupt file. Nothing you can do about that.

: : : : i've been downloading songs of guns and rose and john mayer, but the first few songs have this strange noise on them after about 30sec and they last about 2min what ruins the whole song. Is their anything i can do to get this of or do i have to look for an other mp3 (or choise of music)
: : : : Thanks for your help
: : : : Malicq

:
: I had the same thing happen to me ..I downloaded 4 coies of the same song - fighting to remember the name of it ugh! But anyway - ALL 4 copies after about 30 seconds into the song started making a really weird noise and of course the song is unuseable. It's an 80s song..wish I could remember the name, but that is the only one (so far anyway) that I have had the problem with. So you're not alone, it's not you..someone is doing something to the songs. OH OH OH! The song was Say You Say Me by Lionnel Ritchie - go to Kaaza and download it and try it..you'll see what I mean ..they ALL make that noise. I got a copy of it from a friend instead and converted it to Mp3 ..Good luck!
: *hugz* Marie

Re: Strrange noise on certain mp3's of kazaa (lite)

Posted by courtney on Sun, 10/05/2003 - 15:03.

I've been having this problem too, so far I haven't been able to dl a copy of beyonce - crazy in love that doesn't make this weird scratchy noise after about the first 15 seconds. i had it happen with several patsy cline songs, but after redownloading them i was able to get a good copy. the funny thing is, when you preview the song as you are dling u can't tell it has the problem cuz you can't listen that far into the song...it's almost as if someone is doing it on purpose? :( conspiracy theory against the record companies....

Re: Strrange noise on certain mp3's of kazaa (lite)

Posted by Juan Campa on Wed, 10/01/2003 - 21:50.

Same problem here, but with many of my songs. I think that someone that is against p2p sharing is corrupting every files he(they) gets.

Re: Strrange noise on certain mp3's of kazaa (lite)

Posted by qayammat on Tue, 09/30/2003 - 19:11.

i think the RIAA is doing this so people are discourage to download off kaaza. They have set up their own bogus users with all these noise filled files

Re: Strrange noise on certain mp3's of kazaa (lite)

Posted by Tigran on Sun, 09/28/2003 - 07:22.

The weird noises are a new technique that record companies are using. They are flooding Kazaa with these messed up MP3's to discourage people from looking for other mp3s and then going out and buying the CD.

Re: Strrange noise on certain mp3's of kazaa (lite)

Posted by Hotspace on Mon, 09/08/2003 - 19:33.

: : : Do you know a program that doesn't share these kind of files

: : : Chances are you've downloaded a corrupt file. Nothing you can do about that.

: : : : i've been downloading songs of guns and rose and john mayer, but the first few songs have this strange noise on them after about 30sec and they last about 2min what ruins the whole song. Is their anything i can do to get this of or do i have to look for an other mp3 (or choise of music)
: : : : Thanks for your help
: : : : Malicq

:
: I had the same thing happen to me ..I downloaded 4 coies of the same song - fighting to remember the name of it ugh! But anyway - ALL 4 copies after about 30 seconds into the song started making a really weird noise and of course the song is unuseable. It's an 80s song..wish I could remember the name, but that is the only one (so far anyway) that I have had the problem with. So you're not alone, it's not you..someone is doing something to the songs. OH OH OH! The song was Say You Say Me by Lionnel Ritchie - go to Kaaza and download it and try it..you'll see what I mean ..they ALL make that noise. I got a copy of it from a friend instead and converted it to Mp3 ..Good luck!
: *hugz* Marie

Samething is going on now....I've downloaded a bunch of John Mayer just to hear the beginning of "Your Body Is A wonderland" acoustical version (30sec)

Re: Strrange noise on certain mp3's of kazaa (lite)

Posted by Bootems on Sun, 09/07/2003 - 02:42.

yeah same problem here... some nirvana songs ive tried have done that, among others... its really annoying really. anyone know what causes it?

re: HELP PLEASE -Sampling of audio cd for looping

Posted by Tayus on Thu, 08/21/2003 - 06:38.

I am still having problems sampling off an audio cd. I want to take a specific section of a song and then loop it. What software will allow me to do this efficiently. HELP PLEASE

Re: re: HELP PLEASE -Sampling of audio cd for looping

Posted by the canuck on Fri, 08/22/2003 - 06:44.

: I am still having problems sampling off an audio cd. I want to take a specific section of a song and then loop it. What software will allow me to do this efficiently. HELP PLEASE

try acid its good!!

Re: re: HELP PLEASE -Sampling of audio cd for looping fbvfbvsdvf

Posted by dfvfvfdfxgvfxdgvfxvdfgvfxvxfvf on Thu, 09/18/2003 - 14:38.

: : I am still having problems sampling off an audio cd. I want to take a specific section of a song and then loop it. What software will allow me to do this efficiently. HELP PLEASE : : try acid its good!!

musicmatch jukebox

Posted by michael parry on Wed, 08/20/2003 - 19:51.

please can somebody help me, i have downloaded mmjb and i cant get it started. a message comes up saying
the procedure entry point could not be located in the dynamic link library core DLL.dll

Re: musicmatch jukebox

Posted by Geoff on Wed, 08/20/2003 - 21:10.

Maybe that file is corrputed and needs to be reinstalled. But, first, try downloading the latest version of MMJB and install that.

: please can somebody help me, i have downloaded mmjb and i cant get it started. a message comes up saying
: the procedure entry point could not be located in the dynamic link library core DLL.dll

I want to sample 8 bars for looping under track

Posted by Tayus on Wed, 08/20/2003 - 19:05.

What is the best, cheapest or even FREE software that I would run on a PC to sample specific loops off cd's?

Re: I want to sample 8 bars for looping under track

Posted by Geoff on Wed, 08/20/2003 - 21:06.

You can use an audio editor such as <a href="http://www.hitsquad.com/cgi/htdig/htsearch.cgi?config=htdig&restrict=%2Fsmm%2Fprograms%2F&exclude=&method=and&format=builtin-long&words=audacity">audacity</a> or <a href="http://www.hitsquad.com/smm/programs/SoundForgeXP/">Sound Forge</a>.

Also, take a look at:
<a href="http://www.hitsquad.com/smm/programs/zerox_seamless_looper/">http://www.hitsquad.com/smm/programs/zerox_seamless_looper/</a>
<a href="http://www.hitsquad.com/smm/programs/Zero-X_BeatCreator/">http://www.hitsquad.com/smm/programs/Zero-X_BeatCreator/</a>

: What is the best, cheapest or even FREE software that I would run on a PC to sample specific loops off cd's?

sonic stage error

Posted by Diana on Wed, 08/20/2003 - 19:01.

When I try to open sonicstage I get a error, missing database file, I have tried to reinstall and it still does this, i am reinstalling through application recovery cd. Does anyone know how to fix this. Thanks Diana

Re: sonic stage error

Posted by Casey Swains on Sun, 10/24/2004 - 04:58.

Eh, I have the same problem. I've been using Daemon tools and M3U2SB, http://members.xoom.virgilio.it/paolose/, and it works fine, but it's not the optimal solution - it takes a lot of hard drive space to write image files, and it is a lot slower. Any help with Sonic Stage would be greatly appreciated.

Sonic Stage Shuts down when i try to IMPORT

Posted by Nik on Thu, 10/14/2004 - 20:17.

When I try to import audio files to Sonic Stage the whole program just disappears and shuts down...whats up with that?

Re: sonic stage error

Posted by Charles on Sun, 08/15/2004 - 00:34.

Try installing Microsoft Data Access Components!

It worked for me

Download.com

http://www.download.com/3000-2404-10040711.html?legacy=cnet

Re: sonic stage error

Posted by YEEHAW on Wed, 10/13/2004 - 12:56.

THANK YOU SO MUCH!
worked out great for me. so far at least, still dont trust sony...
thanks again!

Re: sonic stage error

Posted by Adam Luttman on Sun, 04/25/2004 - 10:45.

I have the same corrupt database error. I contacted sony customer services over a month ago, and have done several times since. They havn't replied. Shoddy product, shoddy customer service. My NetMD as a result is just a normal bog standard MD. it's a bag of wank - if anyone can get this problem sorted, please post on one of the many forums dedicated to this problem, and if you're extra nice you can send me an email.

Re: sonic stage error

Posted by Steve on Mon, 05/17/2004 - 12:04.

Man!! I have the same error!! It's a pain in the ass. i reinstalled the software but it still didn't recover my database file!!

Re: sonic stage error

Posted by caleb on Wed, 05/19/2004 - 17:13.

sony sucks ass i have the same problem

Re: sonic stage error

Posted by James on Fri, 05/28/2004 - 06:08.

Has anyone worked out how to fix the database opening problem?

I to have downloaded Jet 4.0 SP8 as advised by Sony but im still getting the same error. If I cant fix it by tomorrow im taking it back for a refund.

Help!

Re: sonic stage error

Posted by Bill on Mon, 12/29/2003 - 22:25.

hi,
i don't have an answer to your problem, but i hope you can help me out. when i try to open my sonic stage, it says that it has performed an illegal opperation, and will be shut down, and that if the problem persists, to contact the progra vendor. I'm not a member of this website, so if you don't have an answer, could you please post this problem, and e-mail me back the relies - if there are any. thank you VERY much. i hope to hear from you soon!

Sonic Stage Support

Posted by Dipak on Thu, 01/15/2004 - 20:08.

I've read all the postings and you never would have guessed that I have the same problem too.

However at one of the support website it recommends downloading Jet v4.0 from microsoft. This they say, should resolve the problem. I downloaded and installed Jet v4.0 SP8 and it still came up with the same error. I even upgraded to v1.53...something.
The support web site where it states this is:

http://www.support-nwwalkman.com/uk/hn.asp?c=7

I want to know if anyone else has tried this and still gets the same problem.

Thanks,
Dipak

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