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Re: Good MIDI-Sequencer for Atari ST ?
I just remembered that you can get Master Tracks Pro
for free, although it probably won't work with Unitor
it is good value for 64 track sequencing:
<a href="http://www.hitsquad.com/smm/programs/MasterTracksPro/">http://www.hitsquad.com/smm/programs/MasterTracksPro/</a>
HTH
Re: Good MIDI-Sequencer for Atari ST ?
: Hi all ,
: I bought 2 weeks ago a Atari 1040ST with a Unitor.
: Now, i'm looking a good music program to make work this little thing.
: I tried Cubase lite but too light. Not enough editing menu.
: I also tried Notator but too complexe when you don't be the Conceptor
: of Notator.
: Does any know a easy to use and advanced stuff for creating Music?
: Any proposition welcome:)
: Thanks for your answers.
: PS: I'm ready to invest.
Cubase or Notator. Both are full-featured, complex programs. Learn
and enjoy!
CubaseFAQ page www.laurencepayne.co.uk/CubaseFAQ.htm
Re: Good MIDI-Sequencer for Atari ST ?
: Hi all ,
: I bought 2 weeks ago a Atari 1040ST with a Unitor.
: Now, i'm looking a good music program to make work this little thing.
: I tried Cubase lite but too light. Not enough editing menu.
: I also tried Notator but too complexe when you don't be the Conceptor
: of Notator.
: Does any know a easy to use and advanced stuff for creating Music?
: Any proposition welcome:)
: Thanks for your answers.
: PS: I'm ready to invest.
If you want something simple I would try Tiger Cub. I have used on
my ST and STe and it works great. On my Hades I am using Sweet 16
which would also run on a ST. Right now, to my knowlege, Sweet 16
is the only midi sequencer that is still being supported and
updated.
--
Edward S. Baiz Jr.
(Gamer)
HADES 060: 256meg Ram, Yamaha & Sony CDRW Drive, 1 gig
Jaz Drive, MicroTek E3 Scanner, Mach 64 w/4meg Ram, Epson
Photo 700 printer, PCI Networking Card, ICQ#91257633
PROGRAMS: Extendos Gold, Cab 2.8, ScanX, GlueStik, aFTP,
Calamus SL2002, Newswatch, Okami, PlayMyCD, Papyrus 8, Smurf,
Nova Driver 2.67, NVDI 5, Mint(Net), Magic(Net), N.AES, Geneva
Re: Good MIDI-Sequencer for Atari ST ?
DrT KCS/Tiger is free and the best sequencer ever on any platform ever. Simple once you learn it. I,ve used it for 15 years for pro sequencing . The trouble with "simple" programs like Sweet 16 is that they have glaring omissions that make them unusable for anything but messing about
Re: Good MIDI-Sequencer for Atari ST ?
: : Hi all ,
: : I bought 2 weeks ago a Atari 1040ST with a Unitor.
: : Now, i'm looking a good music program to make work this little thing.
: : I tried Cubase lite but too light. Not enough editing menu.
: : I also tried Notator but too complexe when you don't be the Conceptor
: : of Notator.
: : Does any know a easy to use and advanced stuff for creating Music?
: : Any proposition welcome:)
: : Thanks for your answers.
: : PS: I'm ready to invest.
: If you want something simple I would try Tiger Cub. I have used on
: my ST and STe and it works great. On my Hades I am using Sweet 16
: which would also run on a ST. Right now, to my knowlege, Sweet 16
: is the only midi sequencer that is still being supported and
: updated.
: --
: Edward S. Baiz Jr.
: (Gamer)
: HADES 060: 256meg Ram, Yamaha & Sony CDRW Drive, 1 gig
: Jaz Drive, MicroTek E3 Scanner, Mach 64 w/4meg Ram, Epson
: Photo 700 printer, PCI Networking Card, ICQ#91257633
: PROGRAMS: Extendos Gold, Cab 2.8, ScanX, GlueStik, aFTP,
: Calamus SL2002, Newswatch, Okami, PlayMyCD, Papyrus 8, Smurf,
: Nova Driver 2.67, NVDI 5, Mint(Net), Magic(Net), N.AES, Geneva
Tiger Cub Sequencer - Quantizing
: : : Hi all ,
: : : I bought 2 weeks ago a Atari 1040ST with a Unitor.
: : : Now, i'm looking a good music program to make work this little thing.
: : : I tried Cubase lite but too light. Not enough editing menu.
: : : I also tried Notator but too complexe when you don't be the Conceptor
: : : of Notator.
: : : Does any know a easy to use and advanced stuff for creating Music?
: : : Any proposition welcome:)
: : : Thanks for your answers.
: : : PS: I'm ready to invest.
: : If you want something simple I would try Tiger Cub. I have used on
: : my ST and STe and it works great. On my Hades I am using Sweet 16
: : which would also run on a ST. Right now, to my knowlege, Sweet 16
: : is the only midi sequencer that is still being supported and
: : updated.
: : --
: : Edward S. Baiz Jr.
: : (Gamer)
: : HADES 060: 256meg Ram, Yamaha & Sony CDRW Drive, 1 gig
: : Jaz Drive, MicroTek E3 Scanner, Mach 64 w/4meg Ram, Epson
: : Photo 700 printer, PCI Networking Card, ICQ#91257633
: : PROGRAMS: Extendos Gold, Cab 2.8, ScanX, GlueStik, aFTP,
: : Calamus SL2002, Newswatch, Okami, PlayMyCD, Papyrus 8, Smurf,
: : Nova Driver 2.67, NVDI 5, Mint(Net), Magic(Net), N.AES, Geneva
Re: Good MIDI-Sequencer for Atari ST ?
: I bought 2 weeks ago a Atari 1040ST with a Unitor.
: Now, i'm looking a good music program to make work this little thing.
: I tried Cubase lite but too light. Not enough editing menu.
: I also tried Notator but too complexe when you don't be the Conceptor
: of Notator.
That may be right, I thought that Notator was fairly
easy to use but I started with its ancestor (Creator)
which may explain the learning curve passed :)
: Does any know a easy to use and advanced stuff for creating Music?
Anyway you also can try the Logic (Midi not Audio on the ST)
It is the superseder of the Notator and is really lots more
easier to begin and much more powerful when you get passed
the learning of the 800 pages of doc :)
(I used to use the Logic 1.7 and 2.0 and 2.01 on the STF
I don't know if the 2.5 works but it should)
Re: Good MIDI-Sequencer for Atari ST ?
Hi.
In my opinion LIVE is the best sequencer ever build for the Atari:
http://www.harald.plontke.de/HaraldPlontke/
Just try it, I couldn´t live without it anymore.
--
thomas
Re: Good MIDI-Sequencer for Atari ST ?
:Does any know a easy to use and advanced stuff for creating Music?
Try Trackman. It is PD now so you should be able to find it by searching ST
archive sites.
Re: Good MIDI-Sequencer for Atari ST ?
: :Does any know a easy to use and advanced stuff for creating Music?
: Try Trackman. It is PD now so you should be able to find it by searching ST
: archive sites.
Hi all
Trackman is on my site with a good selection of Atari-MIDI sequencers.
The "bread and butter" section I call it. See my main page.
http://tamw.atari-users.net/timidi.htm
We have several alternitives to Cubase, although I don't know if the
unitor unit will work on everything.
I also recommend Master Tracks Pro,( the HTML manual is now available
as well) or even Dr T's KCS ( Keyboard Controlled Sequencer)although
people say there is a big learning curve on that, but it has LOTS of
editing functions including PVG ( Programmable Variation Generator)
I also recommend trying out some of the more adventerous apps on my
site which are of the algorithmic nature. For a good starting point on
these, download the Atari-MIDI toolbox now at http://www.myatari.net
on my monthly article.
have fun!
Tim Conrardy
TAMW
Re: Good MIDI-Sequencer for Atari ST ?
Hello.
: Hi all ,
: I bought 2 weeks ago a Atari 1040ST with a Unitor.
Good move. Is it an STF, STFM or STE?
: Does any know a easy to use and advanced stuff for creating Music?
Cubase v3 is the industry standard.
Which Unitor do you have, 'N', 'C' or '2'?
Unitor '2' will work with Cubase, the dongle will fit in it.
Unitor 'N' and 'C' have no dongle port. If you want to use (the best) Cubase
sell the Unitor on to fund the purchase of Cubase.
Cubase is available from Keychange Music, (me). www.keychange.co.uk
Full package is £99, dongle and discs only is £65.
I may do a deal on the Unitor if it's an 'N' or 'C'
: PS: I'm ready to invest.
Good.
Re: Good MIDI-Sequencer for Atari ST ?
Barrie, you say the dongle will fit into the unitor 2, do you have to
cut the ends of it down, as mine is clearly too big, and won't fit in,
unless I modify it's case.
: Hello.
: : Hi all ,
: : I bought 2 weeks ago a Atari 1040ST with a Unitor.
: Good move. Is it an STF, STFM or STE?
: : Does any know a easy to use and advanced stuff for creating Music?
: Cubase v3 is the industry standard.
: Which Unitor do you have, 'N', 'C' or '2'?
: Unitor '2' will work with Cubase, the dongle will fit in it.
: Unitor 'N' and 'C' have no dongle port. If you want to use (the best) Cubase
: sell the Unitor on to fund the purchase of Cubase.
: Cubase is available from Keychange Music, (me). www.keychange.co.uk
:
: Full package is £99, dongle and discs only is £65.
: I may do a deal on the Unitor if it's an 'N' or 'C'
:
: : PS: I'm ready to invest.
:
: Good.
Operating manuals
I have a atari ST1040 with a unitor 2 and Emagic log 3. I need the manuals for the unitor and emagic. Can you help?
Re: Good MIDI-Sequencer for Atari ST ?
Well you could try Cubase full version 3.01, there's plenty of editing
menu's in that.
You can use the unitor with it, but I'm not sure what you use it for
(wethere it's just the syncing, or if you can use the midi ports too)
Other than cubase and notator (or creator), there's not much else (if
anything) that you can use the unitor for)..
Rob
: Hi all ,
: I bought 2 weeks ago a Atari 1040ST with a Unitor.
: Now, i'm looking a good music program to make work this little thing.
: I tried Cubase lite but too light. Not enough editing menu.
: I also tried Notator but too complexe when you don't be the Conceptor
: of Notator.
: Does any know a easy to use and advanced stuff for creating Music?
: Any proposition welcome:)
: Thanks for your answers.
: PS: I'm ready to invest.
Re: Good MIDI-Sequencer for Atari ST ?
The best sequencer for Atari is Edit Tracks Platinum.Post me an email and i can post the program.
Problem with Midiman USB UNO on Windows 2000/XP
I am using a Midiman USB UNO MIDI adapter
(http://www.midiman.net/products/midiman/USBuno.php) under Windows
2000 and XP.
I installed the drivers and everything went smoothly, as described in
the product documentation.
When I connect the UNO to the PC USB, the three LEDs on the UNO flash
once, then go off. A few seconds afterwards, Windows prompts me with
"Unsafe removal of device", as if I had just removed the Midiman
without stopping it first! When I click OK in this window, the USB led
on the Midiman turns on and the device appears to operate normally
from there on out, until I disconnect it and reconnect it, at which
point the problem repeats.
I rebooted the machine and tried a few other minor tweaks--no luck.
Have other people experienced the same problem? Is this "normal"
behavior? I am concerned this might make the computer unstable etc.
Thanks,
Razvan.
Re: Problem with Midiman USB UNO on Windows 2000/XP
: I am using a Midiman USB UNO MIDI adapter
: (http://www.midiman.net/products/midiman/USBuno.php) under Windows
: 2000 and XP.
: I installed the drivers and everything went smoothly, as described in
: the product documentation.
: When I connect the UNO to the PC USB, the three LEDs on the UNO flash
: once, then go off. A few seconds afterwards, Windows prompts me with
: "Unsafe removal of device", as if I had just removed the Midiman
: without stopping it first! When I click OK in this window, the USB led
: on the Midiman turns on and the device appears to operate normally
: from there on out, until I disconnect it and reconnect it, at which
: point the problem repeats.
: I rebooted the machine and tried a few other minor tweaks--no luck.
: Have other people experienced the same problem? Is this "normal"
: behavior? I am concerned this might make the computer unstable etc.
: Thanks,
: Razvan.
That's nothing to worry about...it's a quirk with win2k/xp. I had the same
problem with a d-link mp3 player. Everytime I disconnected the player in
win2k, it would give me that same warning. Whenever I would try to stop the
device for "safe removal," my computer would crash with the blue screen of
death. This feature is mainly for external drives where you never want to
unplug them in an unknown state, which could corrupt them. Absolutely no
harm can come from "unsafely" removing a midi interface.
Re: Problem with Midiman USB UNO on Windows 2000/XP
: : I am using a Midiman USB UNO MIDI adapter
: : (http://www.midiman.net/products/midiman/USBuno.php) under Windows
: : 2000 and XP.
: : I installed the drivers and everything went smoothly, as described in
: : the product documentation.
: : When I connect the UNO to the PC USB, the three LEDs on the UNO flash
: : once, then go off. A few seconds afterwards, Windows prompts me with
: : "Unsafe removal of device", as if I had just removed the Midiman
: : without stopping it first! When I click OK in this window, the USB led
: : on the Midiman turns on and the device appears to operate normally
: : from there on out, until I disconnect it and reconnect it, at which
: : point the problem repeats.
: : I rebooted the machine and tried a few other minor tweaks--no luck.
: : Have other people experienced the same problem? Is this "normal"
: : behavior? I am concerned this might make the computer unstable etc.
: : Thanks,
: : Razvan.
:
: That's nothing to worry about...it's a quirk with win2k/xp. I had the same
: problem with a d-link mp3 player. Everytime I disconnected the player in
: win2k, it would give me that same warning. Whenever I would try to stop the
: device for "safe removal," my computer would crash with the blue screen of
: death. This feature is mainly for external drives where you never want to
: unplug them in an unknown state, which could corrupt them. Absolutely no
: harm can come from "unsafely" removing a midi interface.
I purchased the Midiman Uno USB, but I lost the driver disk. Is there any way to download the drivers online?
Re: Problem with Midiman USB UNO on Windows 2000/XP
: This feature is mainly for external drives where you never want to
: unplug them in an unknown state, which could corrupt them. Absolutely no
: harm can come from "unsafely" removing a midi interface.
This is very helpful, thanks! :-)
Razvan.
Question for Calewalk specialists :
In a cakewalk studioware, i need a led I can flash on a designed note in a
track (C5, C6...)
Of course, I know how to use standard led for volume... etc, but I can't
find how to link it to a specific note.
Do you have an idea ?
Tks anyway for the reading time you already spent on this message.
Best regards.
Greg
Midi Setup woes
I've been trying for years to get my home Midi/PC/Audio setup stable so
that I completely understand it and it is predictable and I can unplug
everything and re-plug it with confidence that it will work again and
that I will know why. I have never been able to do this, mostly because
I simply don't understand all the hardware and terminology. Funny, since
I'm both a professional software developer AND composer, so you'd think
it's be no problem. For some reason, however, it's just never worked
right.
No vendors of any of my equipment will help me beyond their own gear, of
course. I've finally gotten to the point where I just don't want to try
to figure it out anymore. I just want somebody to come over and make it
work.
My equipment setup is neither complicated nor unusual. I have:
Kurzweil SP88 electronic piano (used for its piano sound and as a Midi
controller)
Roland XV-3080 with two expansion cards
PC running Win 2K and Sonar 2.0
Standard audio setup including mixer, integrated amp, etc.
Cool Edit Pro
Gina sound card
MidiMan USB midi box with 2 ins and 2 outs
Any ideas where I might be able to get some help?
- Jim Owen
Re: Midi Setup woes
: I've been trying for years to get my home Midi/PC/Audio setup stable so
: that I completely understand it and it is predictable and I can unplug
: everything and re-plug it with confidence that it will work again and
: that I will know why. I have never been able to do this, mostly because
: I simply don't understand all the hardware and terminology. Funny, since
: I'm both a professional software developer AND composer, so you'd think
: it's be no problem. For some reason, however, it's just never worked
: right.
:
Hiya
perhaps if you could tell us the actual *problem* and what you are tyring to
achieve? What do you mean by "it's just never worked right"?
Re: Midi Setup woes
Sorry, quite right.
The bulk of the problems arise from using Sonar. There are channels,
ports, ins and outs, banks, patches, etc., which confuse me, and the
basic problem comes from attempting to choose a sound I want for the
Roland synth from within Sonar. I'm not sure whether I want Out A or Out
B or Port 1 or Port 2 or what. I will plug my Midi cables into what I
think are the correct sockets in my Midi Box, then choose the same
output within Sonar, I have my channels set up properly, but when I hit
the keyboard I will get, say, a trumpet, when Sonar tells me I should be
hearing a celeste.
The more I type the more I think there's probably no way for this
problem to get solved on line. Someone needs to sit here and look at it.
Are there businesses which supply such a service? Like Home Studio Setup
Guys Inc.?
Re: Midi Setup woes
: Sorry, quite right.
: The bulk of the problems arise from using Sonar. There are channels,
: ports, ins and outs, banks, patches, etc., which confuse me, and the
: basic problem comes from attempting to choose a sound I want for the
: Roland synth from within Sonar. I'm not sure whether I want Out A or Out
: B or Port 1 or Port 2 or what. I will plug my Midi cables into what I
: think are the correct sockets in my Midi Box, then choose the same
: output within Sonar, I have my channels set up properly, but when I hit
: the keyboard I will get, say, a trumpet, when Sonar tells me I should be
: hearing a celeste.
Get an instrument definition file from (for example) here:
http://www.lilchips.com/store/ins/index.asp for your Roland synth. Install
it into Sonar (read your Sonar manual on how to do this). You can select
patches as you want to.
Re: Midi Setup woes
Get a copy of Sonar Power by Scott Garrigus from Amazon or Cakewalk. It
will save hours of time and eliminate those head bruises from banging on the
monitor. He provides step by step instructions with full examples. Nothing
else like it or close to it for Sonar.
JB
: : Sorry, quite right.
: : The bulk of the problems arise from using Sonar. There are channels,
: : ports, ins and outs, banks, patches, etc., which confuse me, and the
: : basic problem comes from attempting to choose a sound I want for the
: : Roland synth from within Sonar. I'm not sure whether I want Out A or Out
: : B or Port 1 or Port 2 or what. I will plug my Midi cables into what I
: : think are the correct sockets in my Midi Box, then choose the same
: : output within Sonar, I have my channels set up properly, but when I hit
: : the keyboard I will get, say, a trumpet, when Sonar tells me I should be
: : hearing a celeste.
:
: Get an instrument definition file from (for example) here:
: http://www.lilchips.com/store/ins/index.asp for your Roland synth. Install
: it into Sonar (read your Sonar manual on how to do this). You can select
: patches as you want to.
Help setting up CASIO and SB AWE
My son has a Casio CTK-531 keyboard and we want to link it up to the PC in
his room. The PC runs ME and has a Sounblaster AWE64 soundcard. The idea
is to allow him to play / record music using the keyboard and Sibelius
software. Also, to use the keyboard as an external controller and use the
soundfonts on the SB AWE64. We have tried using a MIDI cable that connects
to the keyboards IN / OUT sockets and plugs into the the SB's 15 pin socket,
without success.
I am not sure what I need to instal on the PC to get it to recognise the
keyboard. Or do I need another piece of hardware / software ?
I have looked through the forum, but not found an answer so far.
All assistance gratefully received.
Andrew
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Re: Help setting up CASIO and SB AWE
: My son has a Casio CTK-531 keyboard and we want to link it up to the PC in
: his room. The PC runs ME and has a Sounblaster AWE64 soundcard. The idea
: is to allow him to play / record music using the keyboard and Sibelius
: software. Also, to use the keyboard as an external controller and use the
: soundfonts on the SB AWE64. We have tried using a MIDI cable that connects
: to the keyboards IN / OUT sockets and plugs into the the SB's 15 pin socket,
: without success.
: I am not sure what I need to instal on the PC to get it to recognise the
: keyboard. Or do I need another piece of hardware / software ?
: I have looked through the forum, but not found an answer so far.
: All assistance gratefully received.
: Andrew
Make sure you have the cable's "in" plugged in to the keyboard's "out," and
"out" to "in." You also may have to go into the software's settings and
enable the "MPU-401" port as a midi device.
Re: Help setting up CASIO and SB AWE
Thanks for the reply.
Do I also need to instal MPU-401 as a hardware device ?
Andrew
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: : My son has a Casio CTK-531 keyboard and we want to link it up to the PC in
: : his room. The PC runs ME and has a Sounblaster AWE64 soundcard. The idea
: : is to allow him to play / record music using the keyboard and Sibelius
: : software. Also, to use the keyboard as an external controller and use the
: : soundfonts on the SB AWE64. We have tried using a MIDI cable that connects
: : to the keyboards IN / OUT sockets and plugs into the the SB's 15 pin socket,
: : without success.
: : I am not sure what I need to instal on the PC to get it to recognise the
: : keyboard. Or do I need another piece of hardware / software ?
: : I have looked through the forum, but not found an answer so far.
: : All assistance gratefully received.
: : Andrew
:
: Make sure you have the cable's "in" plugged in to the keyboard's "out," and
: "out" to "in." You also may have to go into the software's settings and
: enable the "MPU-401" port as a midi device.
Re: Help setting up CASIO and SB AWE
Thanks for the reply.
Do I also need to instal MPU-401 as a hardware device ?
Andrew
--
: : My son has a Casio CTK-531 keyboard and we want to link it up to the PC in
: : his room. The PC runs ME and has a Sounblaster AWE64 soundcard. The idea
: : is to allow him to play / record music using the keyboard and Sibelius
: : software. Also, to use the keyboard as an external controller and use the
: : soundfonts on the SB AWE64. We have tried using a MIDI cable that connects
: : to the keyboards IN / OUT sockets and plugs into the the SB's 15 pin socket,
: : without success.
: : I am not sure what I need to instal on the PC to get it to recognise the
: : keyboard. Or do I need another piece of hardware / software ?
: : I have looked through the forum, but not found an answer so far.
: : All assistance gratefully received.
: : Andrew
:
: Make sure you have the cable's "in" plugged in to the keyboard's "out," and
: "out" to "in." You also may have to go into the software's settings and
: enable the "MPU-401" port as a midi device.
Re: Help setting up CASIO and SB AWE
You may have to go into the device manager (in the System Control Panel),
then the properties for the SB card. There should be a setting to enable
the MPU-401 on one of the tabs. (I don't have the card, so I can't tell you
exactly where it would be). After enabling it, it should be visible to your
recording software.
: Thanks for the reply.
: Do I also need to instal MPU-401 as a hardware device ?
: Andrew
: --
: : : My son has a Casio CTK-531 keyboard and we want to link it up to the PC in
: : : his room. The PC runs ME and has a Sounblaster AWE64 soundcard. The idea
: : : is to allow him to play / record music using the keyboard and Sibelius
: : : software. Also, to use the keyboard as an external controller and use the
: : : soundfonts on the SB AWE64. We have tried using a MIDI cable that connects
: : : to the keyboards IN / OUT sockets and plugs into the the SB's 15 pin socket,
: : : without success.
: : : I am not sure what I need to instal on the PC to get it to recognise the
: : : keyboard. Or do I need another piece of hardware / software ?
: : : I have looked through the forum, but not found an answer so far.
: : : All assistance gratefully received.
: : : Andrew
: :
: : Make sure you have the cable's "in" plugged in to the keyboard's "out," and
: : "out" to "in." You also may have to go into the software's settings and
: : enable the "MPU-401" port as a midi device.
Yamaha sw1000xg - Directsound
I'm running an sw1000xg on windows XP I have directx9 and the XP
drivers for the card.
When I try to use more than one application at the same time to edit
or play sound, I get an error message saying the current windows
Directsound drivers do not support the action.
I had a SB Audigy befor and i'm seriously thinking about putting it
back in, the sound banks and the D/A on the Yamaha are great, but the
connectivity and support leave somthing to be desired.
Re: Yamaha sw1000xg - Directsound
: I'm running an sw1000xg on windows XP I have directx9 and the XP
: drivers for the card.
: When I try to use more than one application at the same time to edit
: or play sound, I get an error message saying the current windows
: Directsound drivers do not support the action.
: I had a SB Audigy befor and i'm seriously thinking about putting it
: back in, the sound banks and the D/A on the Yamaha are great, but the
: connectivity and support leave somthing to be desired.
Some soundcard device drivers implement the equivalent of a
multisource mixer. WinXP is also a bit pickier than earlier versions
of the OS as far as allowing devices/drivers to be shared.
You can use a software virtual audio device like Virtual Audio Cable
to allow a number of programs to ask one single client device.
The SW1000XG is definitely not the only card with this issue.
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Re: Yamaha sw1000xg - Directsound
: :I'm running an sw1000xg on windows XP I have directx9 and the XP
: :drivers for the card.
: :When I try to use more than one application at the same time to edit
: :or play sound, I get an error message saying the current windows
: :Directsound drivers do not support the action.
: :I had a SB Audigy befor and i'm seriously thinking about putting it
: :back in, the sound banks and the D/A on the Yamaha are great, but the
: :connectivity and support leave somthing to be desired.
:
: Some soundcard device drivers implement the equivalent of a
: multisource mixer. WinXP is also a bit pickier than earlier versions
: of the OS as far as allowing devices/drivers to be shared.
:
: You can use a software virtual audio device like Virtual Audio Cable
: to allow a number of programs to ask one single client device.
:
: The SW1000XG is definitely not the only card with this issue.
Cheers Jeff,
I had a look at the Virtual Audio Cable web site and there's a sister
app called 'Wave clone' if it works it'll solve all my problems.
Thanks again.
Clay.
Re: Yamaha sw1000xg - Directsound
: I'm running an sw1000xg on windows XP I have directx9 and the XP
: drivers for the card.
: When I try to use more than one application at the same time to edit
: or play sound, I get an error message saying the current windows
: Directsound drivers do not support the action.
: I had a SB Audigy befor and i'm seriously thinking about putting it
: back in, the sound banks and the D/A on the Yamaha are great, but the
: connectivity and support leave somthing to be desired.
You can't do that! Once Cubase or another sequencer, even Windows Media
Player, grabs the sound card, you have to exit that prog' before you can use
another with the card. That's just the way it is with the SW1000XG - one
prog' at a time. Also, like a lot of other windows prog's, two prog's can't
edit the same file at the same time. e.g. when your editing a WORD file, you
can't delete it in, say, Windows Explorer, while the file is still open in
WORD.
Regards,
Colin
Re: Yamaha sw1000xg - Directsound
I'm running an SW1000XG on windows XP and have loaded and run Cakewalk V9 and Van Basco's Karaoke player at the same time and with no problems. So where does this leave the theory that two software packages can not run together at the same time useing the SW1000XG?
Re: Yamaha sw1000xg - Directsound
: : I'm running an sw1000xg on windows XP I have directx9 and the XP
: : drivers for the card.
: : When I try to use more than one application at the same time to edit
: : or play sound, I get an error message saying the current windows
: : Directsound drivers do not support the action.
: : I had a SB Audigy befor and i'm seriously thinking about putting it
: : back in, the sound banks and the D/A on the Yamaha are great, but the
: : connectivity and support leave somthing to be desired.
:
: You can't do that! Once Cubase or another sequencer, even Windows Media
: Player, grabs the sound card, you have to exit that prog' before you can use
: another with the card. That's just the way it is with the SW1000XG - one
: prog' at a time. Also, like a lot of other windows prog's, two prog's can't
: edit the same file at the same time. e.g. when your editing a WORD file, you
: can't delete it in, say, Windows Explorer, while the file is still open in
: WORD.
: Regards,
: Colin
When I had the SB Audigy installed, i could be making a tune in cubase
switch to Sound forge edit a wav file in my track and the file would
update it's self, all while having the Creative wave recorder open and
monitoring. I'm quite dissapointed that a 70 quid card for games can
do somthing that a £320 Pro Audio card cannot.
The error i'm getting is actually from the 'Microsoft sound mapper'
not directsound, or are these part and parcel?
Is there any way I could have both my cards in and switch between the
two?
Where did the notation/score writing guys get their smarts?
Consider Cakewalk, Passport, Cubase, Sibelius, Noteworthy, Mozart, and
at least a dozen other music notation packages (or general MIDI tools
that include a score writing facility). These packages were developed
by countless clever people, but where did they get the basics for
writing notation software? Books? University courses? Or did they all
start out individually with a blank sheet of "paper" (the VDU), a C
compiler, and start plonking down noteheads and clefs and staves and
suchlike? It's a mystery, because I cannot find any information on the
internet or at Amazon which gives any insight into this particular
branch of computer music programming.
Feel free to prove me wrong by posting your links to information here:
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MM
Re: Where did the notation/score writing guys get their smarts?
: These packages were developed by countless clever people, but where
: did they get the basics for writing notation software? Books?
: University courses?
Once long ago I noted that people inclined to computer programming were
frequently musicians. As a musician I noted that my company's software
crew were almost all musicians. I'm guessing half of them were
readers.
Of course everybody with hands now is, sorta-kinda, a computer
programmer, so any correlation is probably difficult to find.
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Re: Where did the notation/score writing guys get their smarts?
...........These packages were developed
: by countless clever people, but where did they get the basics for
: writing notation software?
Try asking at rec.music.compose
At least two software writers (David Webber - Mozart and Bernard Hill -
Music Publisher) are regular contributors there.
There is a current discussion on notation software that's been running for a
while.
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Barry Graham
Top Brass Events Band
Melbourne, Australia
Re: Where did the notation/score writing guys get their smarts?
: Consider Cakewalk, Passport, Cubase, Sibelius, Noteworthy, Mozart, and
: at least a dozen other music notation packages (or general MIDI tools
: that include a score writing facility). These packages were developed
: by countless clever people, but where did they get the basics for
: writing notation software? Books? University courses? Or did they all
: start out individually with a blank sheet of "paper" (the VDU), a C
: compiler, and start plonking down noteheads and clefs and staves and
: suchlike?
The idea itself is quite old, doing music notation with a computer
was attempted since computers where capable of doing graphics. One problem
with traditional music engraving was, that errors where hard to correct
and every published version of a work (e.g. in different keys) needed
the same amount of engraving time as the first one. Abstracting a work
to a database on which a computer performs actions can speed up the
engraving process and automatize it.
There are books on notation, on handling graphics and on programming.
You need some skills in every discipline, the more, the better.
Additionally, you need a good concept of representating music notation
as computer data. The flexibility of your data model is the core of the
power your program will have. Additionally, you need some good algorithms
which manipulate this data - e.g. calculate spacing between notes,
distributing staves on a page, connecting text syllables to music, etc. .
You'll need to decide how to incorporate MIDI functionality, e.g. importing
or exporting MIDI files, MIDI input and MIDI playback. Finally, a user
interface is of big importance. How music can be entered and edited
determines how fast and easy a user can work with the program.
Existing programs are strong in some of the features and weak in others.
Some programs show their weakness, when it comes to special music
notation situations, like doing page layout. Many programs will let you
enter the music first in a scroll view mode and do the page layout
afterwards in a page layout view.
And to answer your questions: the basics for notation software mainly
derive from traditional engraving aesthetics, some math, and database
handling. I once wrote some simple notation software for my own
purposes, so I only can tell from personal experience and from what
I read on the web. http://www.music-notation.info/ is worth visiting.
Harald
Re: Where did the notation/score writing guys get their smarts?
The people who develop technology (tools) innovation are already smart and
have a good grasp of business processes.
Most technology innovation come about to reduce the bottom line, profits.
If it can reduce development time, reduce production cost, and streamline
business processes without degrading quality, the technology will be a hit.
So notation and scoring software should be viewed in terms of the above.
Olushola
Re: Where did the notation/score writing guys get their smarts?
: The people who develop technology (tools) innovation are already smart and
: have a good grasp of business processes.
That's an interesting bit of news. Anybody who can write good code is
inherently a good businessman. That's the opposite of almost all of my
personal experience.
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Re: Where did the notation/score writing guys get their smarts?
: : The people who develop technology (tools) innovation are already smart and
: : have a good grasp of business processes.
: That's an interesting bit of news. Anybody who can write good code is
: inherently a good businessman. That's the opposite of almost all of my
: personal experience.
Did you noticed the word "and" in my statement?
Your point is well taken though. It's been my experience that a hardware or
software
developer who understands the process is definitely more likely to produce a
product that makes development and production more cost effective (the
business of
America is business).
Information management is a case in point. There have been so many companies
that spend all this money on people who really understand technology but
know
jack about how the business operates. So the results are never attained. In
this case,
what's needed is a close collaboration between operation research and a
technical
people.
Olushola
Voice Recording
This may not be the right place to ask this, but I was hoping someone could
help.
I am working in 3D animation and I want to record the voices from a
soundproofed closet next to the computer's location. I'd like to record
directly to the hard drive and be able to control the recording from the
closet. Can anyone recommend a software/hardware package that can do this?
Thanks,
Tom
Re: Voice Recording
Yes, a video monitor and mouse/keyboard in the booth.
JB
: This may not be the right place to ask this, but I was hoping someone could
: help.
: I am working in 3D animation and I want to record the voices from a
: soundproofed closet next to the computer's location. I'd like to record
: directly to the hard drive and be able to control the recording from the
: closet. Can anyone recommend a software/hardware package that can do this?
: Thanks,
: Tom
Re: Voice Recording
: You want to keep the CPU out of the booth because the fans and disks make
: noise.
CRTs can make a low hum, too. Use a flat panel display.
Re: Voice Recording
Heh,
I was hoping for something, I don't know, more elegant? But that's what I'll
probably do.
: Yes, a video monitor and mouse/keyboard in the booth.
: JB
: : This may not be the right place to ask this, but I was hoping someone could
: : help.
: : I am working in 3D animation and I want to record the voices from a
: : soundproofed closet next to the computer's location. I'd like to record
: : directly to the hard drive and be able to control the recording from the
: : closet. Can anyone recommend a software/hardware package that can do this?
: : Thanks,
: : Tom
Re: Voice Recording
You want to keep the CPU out of the booth because the fans and disks make
noise.
JB
: Heh,
: I was hoping for something, I don't know, more elegant? But that's what I'll
: probably do.
: : Yes, a video monitor and mouse/keyboard in the booth.
: : JB
: : : This may not be the right place to ask this, but I was hoping someone could
: : : help.
: : : I am working in 3D animation and I want to record the voices from a
: : : soundproofed closet next to the computer's location. I'd like to record
: : : directly to the hard drive and be able to control the recording from the
: : : closet. Can anyone recommend a software/hardware package that can do this?
: : : Thanks,
: : : Tom
Re: Voice Recording
I'd say its best to get a condenser mic. It would be the best sound quality. In terms of software, there are hundreds of programs like acid and magix music maker 7. They're both good in that you can play your 3D animation and record at the same time.
Re: Voice Recording
Wow this is a tough one!
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