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How can I remove vocals from songs and then rerecord the Vocal T

Posted by Tareq on Mon, 08/04/2003 - 02:55.

How can i remove vocals from songs using Cool Edit Pro 2.0? Would really appreciate someone helping me out here!

Re: how can i remove vocals from songs . and rerecord the vocal

Posted by charisse on Sat, 08/02/2003 - 02:07.

: : : how can i remove vocals from songs that i have ripped from cds with acid pro 3? is there any shareware available to do this?

: : Ok my question is simular but I would like to take a vocal track and resave it to be used for a techno or trance mix is this possiable and how,
: : since I have heard some techo/trance that this was done

:
: Yes! The process is involved.
: In your wave editor, take the stereo song (it HAS to be a stereo song with the vocal DEAD CENTER - nothing else works right!), highlight the left track, and invert it (reverse the phase). Mix the resulting file down to MONO - this step removes the vocals from the track. Now, take that original file and select the right track. Paste over the contents of that track with your new MONO-vocals-removed track. Reverse that phase on that. Mix to MONO again.

: If everything was done correctly, you should have a vocals only track, since that's the only information that wasn't dead-center on your stereo track.

: If you want to do vocal removal via a plug-in, check out Analog X's Vocal Remover. It's free.

Re: how can i remove vocals from songs . and rerecord the vocal

Posted by Charisse on Sat, 08/02/2003 - 02:12.

: : : : how can i remove vocals from songs that i have ripped from cds with acid pro 3? is there any shareware available to do this?

: : : Ok my question is simular but I would like to take a vocal track and resave it to be used for a techno or trance mix is this possiable and how,
: : : since I have heard some techo/trance that this was done

: :
: : Yes! The process is involved.
: : In your wave editor, take the stereo song (it HAS to be a stereo song with the vocal DEAD CENTER - nothing else works right!), highlight the left track, and invert it (reverse the phase). Mix the resulting file down to MONO - this step removes the vocals from the track. Now, take that original file and select the right track. Paste over the contents of that track with your new MONO-vocals-removed track. Reverse that phase on that. Mix to MONO again.

: : If everything was done correctly, you should have a vocals only track, since that's the only information that wasn't dead-center on your stereo track.

: : If you want to do vocal removal via a plug-in, check out Analog X's Vocal Remover. It's free.

OK, I'm way new at this...my husband just downloaded Winamp & AnalogX and we tried it out on a couple cd's (both from the actual cd and from things burned to our computer). Now if I want to make a copy of the song with vocals removed how do I do that? My 9 year old needs it for an audition next week.

Thanks

Re: how can i remove vocals from songs . and rerecord the vocal

Posted by CSP Audio on Thu, 06/26/2003 - 03:32.

: If everything was done correctly, you should have a vocals only track, since that's the only information that wasn't dead-center on your stereo track.

Sorry, but this is commonly made mistake: cancelling the vocal is possible, leaving only the vocal is NOT!
It simply can't be done (yet)!
Matt
http://www.csp-audio.com

Re: how can i remove vocals from songs . and rerecord the vocal

Posted by Tahome on Wed, 11/19/2003 - 11:37.

The only tool I know of is Pandora RT by Prosoniq. Works pretty well (not perfect but usable) with mono and stereo music. It's a plug in included with their sonicWORX Studio software.

--th

Pandora RT/Prosoniq web site

Posted by Tahome on Wed, 11/19/2003 - 11:38.

Forgot the link: http://www.prosoniq.com, look for PANDORA.

--th

Re: how can i remove vocals from songs . and rerecord the vocal

Posted by Derek on Sat, 05/31/2003 - 13:55.

: : : how can i remove vocals from songs that i have ripped from cds with acid pro 3? is there any shareware available to do this?

: : Ok my question is simular but I would like to take a vocal track and resave it to be used for a techno or trance mix is this possiable and how,
: : since I have heard some techo/trance that this was done

:
: Yes! The process is involved.
: In your wave editor, take the stereo song (it HAS to be a stereo song with the vocal DEAD CENTER - nothing else works right!), highlight the left track, and invert it (reverse the phase). Mix the resulting file down to MONO - this step removes the vocals from the track. Now, take that original file and select the right track. Paste over the contents of that track with your new MONO-vocals-removed track. Reverse that phase on that. Mix to MONO again.

: If everything was done correctly, you should have a vocals only track, since that's the only information that wasn't dead-center on your stereo track.

: If you want to do vocal removal via a plug-in, check out Analog X's Vocal Remover. It's free.

Did anyone get this to work??

I tried it on a WAV rip from a CD (not a mp3-not that stupid) and the vocal is dead center because I can remove it and just have a vocals removed track but can't keep the vocals. Can you elaborate more for us John? Or can someone else tell me how they did it to keep the vocals only?

Please email me at fan1alanis219@aol.com with any info, thanks!!

-Derek-

Re: how can i remove vocals from songs . and rerecord the vocal

Posted by Joanne Lynn on Mon, 04/07/2003 - 21:27.

: : : how can i remove vocals from songs that i have ripped from cds with acid pro 3? is there any shareware available to do this?

: : Ok my question is simular but I would like to take a vocal track and resave it to be used for a techno or trance mix is this possiable and how,
: : since I have heard some techo/trance that this was done

:
: Yes! The process is involved.
: In your wave editor, take the stereo song (it HAS to be a stereo song with the vocal DEAD CENTER - nothing else works right!), highlight the left track, and invert it (reverse the phase). Mix the resulting file down to MONO - this step removes the vocals from the track. Now, take that original file and select the right track. Paste over the contents of that track with your new MONO-vocals-removed track. Reverse that phase on that. Mix to MONO again.

: If everything was done correctly, you should have a vocals only track, since that's the only information that wasn't dead-center on your stereo track.

: If you want to do vocal removal via a plug-in, check out Analog X's Vocal Remover. It's free.

Thanks John,
I ll give it a try with Goldwave thats what I want to do unlike some others who want to remove the vocals ad use the music with me since I like doing techno/ trance mixes its the the other way around lol
thanks again

Joanne Lynn

Re: how can i remove vocals from songs . and rerecord the vocal

Posted by jazzfacts on Thu, 06/26/2003 - 18:36.

: : If everything was done correctly, you should have a vocals only track, since that's the only information that wasn't dead-center on your stereo track.

Sorry this reasoning is wrong; it doesn't work!!
It's not (yet) possible to obtain a vocals-only track

Other programs

Posted by Jonathan Troiano a.k.a. DJjon on Thu, 06/26/2003 - 13:02.

Is It Possible to do this with Steinbergb Wavelab?
If So, How?

Re: how can i remove vocals from songs . and rerecord the vocal

Posted by Jonathan A.K.A. DJjon on Thu, 06/26/2003 - 12:48.

Is It Possible to do this in Steinbergs WaveLab? if it is different, how?

Re: how can i remove vocals from songs . and rerecord the vocal

Posted by LiLi on Sat, 03/20/2004 - 18:30.

hi
i want to remove the lyrics of the song and keep only the music
thanks

Powerfull MIDI-mixing/performances creation: AdeQ Channel layout

Posted by adq inf on Fri, 04/04/2003 - 01:42.

Sorry for forum-view news.

AdeQ Channel layout XL:
performance creation system/GM synth editor

AdeQ Channel layout XL is the plug-in for Cakewalk, Sonar and Cubase SX. It offers the easiest way for powerful MIDI-mixing and creating performances (zones' structure, MIDI-controllers' positions, MIDI-automation for MIDI-devices or VST instruments (sampler, sound-module).
It is most powerful system for creating fat sound based on MIDI-mixing. Also, any MIDI-device or VSTi now with help of Channel layout XL will have zones' structure (as AKAI libraries - wave-zone structure).
Now you can mix Piano, Strings, any patches and programs at any positions with help of unique graphical system - OS/XL. Just choose one of
AdeQ Channel layout XL performances or create zones yourself.

128 performances for GM devices included in FREE version : Channel layout Player.

read more:
[url]http://www.adeq-music.com/products.html[/url]

try it now:
[url]http://www.adeq-music.com/register.html[/url]

regards, AdeQ-music

dj mix tracking

Posted by max on Thu, 04/03/2003 - 21:20.

I need to insert tracking into continuous DJ mixes. Any suggestions of simple programs for PC? I've used sound editing programs to cut and paste into new files and then piece them together to burn on CD later but that seems like the long way around. Thanks for any help...

Re: dj mix tracking

Posted by gerasim on Tue, 07/22/2003 - 21:16.

: I need to insert tracking into continuous DJ mixes. Any suggestions of simple programs for PC? I've used sound editing programs to cut and paste into new files and then piece them together to burn on CD later but that seems like the long way around. Thanks for any help...

Max, try Nero CD Burner, or CD Architect 5 by Sonic Foundry. These will do the job. I personally use both of them. The diffrence is that CD Architect 5 lets you master the mix, by using compression, limiters, and noise gates.

Re: dj mix tracking

Posted by Dan on Thu, 04/10/2003 - 02:43.

Use a program called Vegas Video (from Sonic Foundry) It lets you insert track index positions where ever you want, and also burns onto cd. Its the only one I've found thats good for this type of thing.

Re: dj mix tracking

Posted by keith walsh on Fri, 04/04/2003 - 09:06.

Check out Ableton Live ...
It lets you load samples while playing live

Looking for the best condencer mic for acoustic guitar, cheep.

Posted by Tito on Thu, 04/03/2003 - 20:23.

Is it posible to get a cheep, really decent sounding condencer mic for acoustic guitars (a nylon string and a steel string) without spending more than a few hundred dollars?

Re: Looking for the best condencer mic for acoustic guitar, chee

Posted by Rimmer on Fri, 04/04/2003 - 14:47.

Other than the Marshall. You could check out a used AKG451 (they are quite expensive new. Overall, I rate this mic as a great all rounder for acoustic guitars. I wouldn't be without one.

Other than that, consider the very reasonably priced Studio Projects B3 or the C1 if you want general purpose LD condensors.

Note though. A good microphone is 'nothing' with a decent preamplifier. Look at the FMR RNP and the Studio Projects VTB1 which are both reportedly a steal for the price. Mackie XDR pre's are as low as I will go as I have heard the difference with a recording done through a decent mic preamplifier.

Rimmer

p.s. Another reportedly decent mic is a Behringer ECM8000. Cheap as chips and reasonable apparently. The only downfall for me is it's omni directional as it's apparently designed on a more expensive test microphone

In reply to Rimmer

Posted by Tito on Fri, 04/04/2003 - 14:57.

In reply to Rimmer.

You said that a good microphone is nothin without a good preamp... I was just going to hook the mic directly to the BR1180 (it has phantom power if needed). If I am going to spend money on a mic, should I also get a preamp? I didn't realize preamps were an issue.
Thanks for your replies.

Re: In reply to Rimmer

Posted by Rimmer on Mon, 04/07/2003 - 19:29.

There are a few things to consider to get a clean and professional sound to tape (as it were).

1. Sound source. There is nothing more important than getting the sound you want at source.

2. A proper and short signal chain. Providing you have the sound source you are looking for, a properly chosen and decent quality mic to a decent mic cable to a decent mic preamp to a decent interconnecting cable to a decent recording medium. If you are converting to digital as most people do these days (mainly due to the fact that tape is rarely used these days) then you should also consider the quality of the A/D (analogue to digital convertors).

3. That's about it...

Preamps are the most missunderstood essentials in that recording chain. As with any chain of devices, the end result is as good as the weakest part of the chain. Where people miss out is in the mic preamp which some people consider more important than the mic. I am divided on that one..

The lowest level of acceptable quality preamp I would use happily is the XDR preamps in the Mackie VLZ pro mixing desks. If you want a cheaper solution, then the M-Audio audio buddy is a great buy and doubles as a half decent instrument DI. It has two mic/Di inputs and is cheap.

Up from there, I would head for a Studio projects VTB-1. Valve single channel preamp compared by many people I really respect to valve preamps costing around $500.

There is a company called FMR that make a well known and surprisingly cheap compressor called a RNC (stands for Really Nice Compressor). They have recently bought out an RNP (really nice preamp... ;/ ) which is highly regarded.

If you want to do yourself a favour, buying an RNP and then an RNC and linking the two together as a front end signal chain will do you very well from vocals to violins. You would need to turn the input trim on your HD recorder to zero otherwise you will essentially be using the preamp in the Boss which can't be very impressive at that price. The boss will colour the signal with it's average (not knocking it, just being realistic) A/D convertors so you are not matching the level of the front end components but the sound quality should improve noticably.

Check out the above and don't forget the VTB-1. Check out the Studio projects C1 and B1.

Check out these guys

http://www.poetica.nl/

There are Mp3's that have been recorded with a studio projects C1 through Joe Meek and Mackie (comparable preamps to a Audiobuddy, the Mackie that is...) preamps.

Cya

Rimmer

Re: Looking for the best condencer mic for acoustic guitar, chee

Posted by Gecko on Thu, 04/03/2003 - 23:48.

I like MXL mics from Marshal electronics. Not to be confused with Marshal amplifiers! you can get them at www.musiciansfriend.com or www.music123.com Really good mics for the price. I did some work for a steal string acoustic guitar player, and after I gave them the final cut they wanted to know what the microphone was called so they could get one. MXL-1006; Around 100USD

Gecko

: Is it posible to get a cheep, really decent sounding condencer mic for acoustic guitars (a nylon string and a steel string) without spending more than a few hundred dollars?

Re: Looking for the best condencer mic for acoustic guitar, chee

Posted by danny on Fri, 05/23/2003 - 05:37.

I was wondering if there is any market leader in nylon string acoustic mics at around the $700U.S mark, or simply what is a good mic for around that price.

I need the best way to copy from BR1180 to CD

Posted by Tito on Thu, 04/03/2003 - 20:12.

I've been working with a Boss BR1180 without the CD drive. I would rather spend less than $350 on an external CD recorder than pay that for the one that Boss sells for the BR1180. I'd like some advise on what the best way to do this would be. I'm not going to have a computer much longer so I won't be able to get a burner for my computer. I also want to do this digital, using the digital output from the BR1180. I am wondering how the track layout would be for several songs on one CD. Would I be able to burn a track, then select another song on the BR1180 and then burn that track, then select another on the BR1180 and then burn that track? Would be best thing to do just be to get the BR1180 burner? I thank whoever replies to this.

Re: I need the best way to copy from BR1180 to CD

Posted by johnny on Tue, 01/18/2005 - 16:12.

I've got a BOSS BR 1180CD, and when i try to back-up a song,i.e., burn a data CD, I keep getting this message: "CD WRite Error!
wtf?? BOSS Tech support is closed for the week because of NAMM show. $%&^%&**)*(^$#!!!!!!!!!!LOL

Boss BR1180 CD-Recorder KIT - Brand New For $199!!!

Posted by Alex on Tue, 11/23/2004 - 21:20.

Original Japanese Made CD-RW Kits for BOSS BR1180 Multitrack finally available dirt cheap!!! CD-RW Kit is Brand New and includes everything you need to plug&play! $199

Check it out:

http://www.prairiepress.net/cdr_br1180.html

Best Regards, Alex
pokepcccp@yahoo.com

Re: Boss BR1180 CD-Recorder KIT - Brand New For $199!!!

Posted by jb on Fri, 01/28/2005 - 13:21.

: Original Japanese Made CD-RW Kits for BOSS BR1180 Multitrack finally available dirt cheap!!! CD-RW Kit is Brand New and includes everything you need to plug&play! $199

: Check it out:

: http://www.prairiepress.net/cdr_br1180.html

:
: Best Regards, Alex
: pokepcccp@yahoo.com

I'm interested in the CD burner for the BR 1180.

I keep getting a variety of error messages. very sporadically it will wrte to a CD. but most of the time, no.

do you think a new burner is the answer?

Re: I need the best way to copy from BR1180 to CD

Posted by Alex on Tue, 11/23/2004 - 21:14.

Original Japanese Made CD-RW Kits for BOSS BR1180 Multitrack finally available dirt cheap!!! CD-RW Kit is Brand New and includes everything you need to plug&play! $199

Check it out:

http://www.prairiepress.net/cdr_br1180.html

Best Regards, Alex
pokepcccp@yahoo.com

mac audiowerk card on pc?

Posted by pieter on Thu, 04/03/2003 - 09:12.

does anyone know if an (older) audiowerk card for the mac works/connects on/to a pc, running on win2000 (with the right drivers of course)?

please mail me; i do not check this forum regularely

thanx!

Re: mac audiowerk card on pc?

Posted by Rimmer on Fri, 04/04/2003 - 14:33.

I'm not under the impression that there is actuall a Mac or Windows version. I think it's down to the drivers only..

Rimmer

FL studio crashes too much

Posted by AveMatic on Thu, 04/03/2003 - 03:49.

I just got fruityloops studio and I notice that it has a bug where you cannot open your fruitysoundfont player without it crashing!!!!and its not handling any of my wav files either!!!????!!! does anyone know why??

Acid Pro 4.0

Posted by Broderick Collins on Wed, 04/02/2003 - 23:26.

I wanted know how can I get my microphone to work on Acid Pro 4.0.

Re: Acid Pro 4.0

Posted by steady on Thu, 02/05/2004 - 17:29.

: I wanted know how can I get my microphone to work on Acid Pro 4.0.

check your mutimedia vol controls in your control panel settings,..
right click on property's and select recording menu.
make sure your inputs are not muted.

Re: Acid Pro 4.0

Posted by John Ivy on Sun, 04/06/2003 - 17:50.

: I wanted know how can I get my microphone to work on Acid Pro 4.0.

The same way you get any microphone to work with any audio software - you just have to choose the right port for recording in your audio properties.

For instance, if you have a soundblaster, check microphone, and plug your mic into that - if you're running a real mic with a mixer, you can plug the mixer output into the line-in jack.

If you're using another type of card, the answer is similar - just look around - you'll figure it out.
By default, your audio card might not be set to record the input you want it to record.

Sound recorder software for me

Posted by Richard laurin on Wed, 04/02/2003 - 22:17.

i,m looking for a program or somthing i can down load
and record my own song on my comuter and one know where i can down load

Re: Sound recorder software for me

Posted by trog on Fri, 04/04/2003 - 12:41.

try n-track studio at www.fasoft.com ... it's free, and you can record a song

who sings this song?

Posted by Charlaine on Wed, 04/02/2003 - 16:41.

I am trying to figure out who made a rock cover of the '80s song Relax, don't do it. I'm pretty sure it was in a movie...but I just don't remember which one. If anybody could help me out that would be great.

P.S: It's not any of the Frankie Goes to Hollywood songs I alredy checked all of them out.

Re: who sings this song?

Posted by britt on Wed, 06/25/2003 - 14:02.

who sings this song?

I THINK IVE ALREADY LOST YOU I THINKYOUR ALREADY GONE

Re: who sings this song?

Posted by brittany on Mon, 06/23/2003 - 16:31.

I am barely breathing..and i can't find the air...don't know what why i'm kidin'.. imaging you care.. and i can stand here waiting fooled for another day...

Re: who sings this song?

Posted by brit on Sun, 06/22/2003 - 02:16.

love don't come easy its a game of give and take.........ohhhh love don't last for ever... mama said....???????

Re: who sings this song?

Posted by damian on Wed, 06/18/2003 - 12:04.

better question who sings that do do do doo do do do doo she was sitting in the something and the blank was blanky blank

Re: who sings this song?

Posted by John Ivy on Sun, 04/06/2003 - 17:56.

: I am trying to figure out who made a rock cover of the '80s song Relax, don't do it. I'm pretty sure it was in a movie...but I just don't remember which one. If anybody could help me out that would be great.

: P.S: It's not any of the Frankie Goes to Hollywood songs I alredy checked all of them out.

Frankie Goes to Hollywood recorded Relax on the album Welcome to the Pleasure Dome. It was not, however, featured in Videodrome, to my knowledge.
It WAS featured in Body Double, and of course in Zoolander.
You can probably get the song off the Zoolander Soundtrack, which should be current.
It's also downloadable off Kazaa.

If you want to figure out who did covers of the song, go to google and type Relax Covers.

Here's a list from the Covers Project:
Relax covered by Captain Sensible
Relax ? covered by Powerman 5000
Relax covered by New Bad Things
Relax ? covered by Kevorkian Death Cycle
Relax ? covered by Unit:187
Relax ? covered by Buzzkill

Re: songs dj puts on?

Posted by mikey on Sun, 08/17/2003 - 20:54.

the in scene where zoolander is about to kill the prime minister, the dj puts on like 2 or 3 songs..there is a mix that he puts on, and they keep on switching it to RALAX..
does any know the name of the mix song that keeps on getting switching with ralax

Re: who sings this song?

Posted by Jaime on Sun, 06/15/2003 - 23:11.

I found what I believe you're looking for on Kazaa, it was not labeled under an artist though. It plays in the credits of Zoolander and I found it under Zoolander soundtrack on Kazaa. I am still trying to figure out the artist of this cover.

: : I am trying to figure out who made a rock cover of the '80s song Relax, don't do it. I'm pretty sure it was in a movie...but I just don't remember which one. If anybody could help me out that would be great.

: : P.S: It's not any of the Frankie Goes to Hollywood songs I alredy checked all of them out.

:
: Frankie Goes to Hollywood recorded Relax on the album Welcome to the Pleasure Dome. It was not, however, featured in Videodrome, to my knowledge.
: It WAS featured in Body Double, and of course in Zoolander.
: You can probably get the song off the Zoolander Soundtrack, which should be current.
: It's also downloadable off Kazaa.

: If you want to figure out who did covers of the song, go to google and type Relax Covers.

: Here's a list from the Covers Project:
: Relax covered by Captain Sensible
: Relax ? covered by Powerman 5000
: Relax covered by New Bad Things
: Relax ? covered by Kevorkian Death Cycle
: Relax ? covered by Unit:187
: Relax ? covered by Buzzkill

Re: who sings this song?

Posted by Holler on Wed, 04/02/2003 - 19:38.

It is Frankie Goes to Hollywood. Really!

The movie was Videodrome.

:)

Re: who sings this song?

Posted by Geoff on Wed, 04/02/2003 - 19:50.

<img src="http://krisb.free.fr/lettre%20V/image%20V/videodrome.jpg">

: It is Frankie Goes to Hollywood. Really!

: The movie was Videodrome.

: :)

converting .br0 Boss 532 files

Posted by Pfunk on Wed, 04/02/2003 - 09:25.

converting .br0 Boss 532 files

This popular thread has been given its own page : converting .br0 Boss 532 files

Is there a Refill to wav converter?

Posted by Noone Special on Wed, 04/02/2003 - 01:12.

So, does anyone know of a Refill to wav converter?

Re: Is there a Refill to wav converter?

Posted by Kiriku on Tue, 10/28/2003 - 15:39.

i don't know but if you find it please mail me

Re: Is there a Refill to wav converter?

Posted by Keith Walsh on Wed, 04/02/2003 - 05:37.

not that I'm aware of .... no

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