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Re: MMJB Soundcard problem: waveout format not supported

SOLUTION

Go to Control Panel -->Admistrative Tools -->SERVICES
On Right side, scroll to almost the very bottom and Find Windows Audio -- it has to be set to AUTOMATIC and the status should be Started --- On Left side you can click the Restart Service button.If stil not ok then restart your computer

Re: MMJB Soundcard problem: waveout format not supported

I HAVE A WINDOWS XP THAT IS SUPPOSED TO HAVE A WORKING SOUND CARD. THERE IS NOOOOOO SOUND OF ANY KIND COMING FROM MY SYSTEM. WHAT THE HELL IS UP WITH THAT? I SURE HOPE YOU ARE ABLE TO ASSIST ME AS I HAVE NOTED NUMEROUS OTHER PEOPLE HAVING THE SAME KIND OF PROBLEM BUT SHOULD NOT FOR THE AMOUNT OF MONEY THEY HAVE PAID FOR FOR A SYSTEM THAT IS SUPPOSED TO HAVE A WORKING SOUND CARD. CAN WE PLEASE FIND A WAY TO CORRECT THIS PROBLEM. THANKS...I HOPE.

Re: MMJB Soundcard problem: waveout format not supported

dear sir/mam
few months back there was a problem in our computer regarding mmjb soundcard ,after a while we replaced with a new soundcard ,it worked properly but only for one day so is there a problem in "musicmatchjukebox"or any thing else.
If anyone knows how to fix this problem please help. I have no sound when playing anything!

Re: MMJB Soundcard problem: waveout format not supported

: If anyone knows how to fix this problem please help. I have no sound when playing anything!

Fixed for me. Here`s How:

Lost my audio after installing a tv card. Win Xp Pro.

Tried the system.ini thing.... didn`t work for me.

Looked in devices.... nothing seemed wrong (no red things).

Took out the tv card... no change.

Took out the soundcard.... booted without it.

Shut down, put it back in.... Got sound back.

Shut down. Put in the tv card. Booted. No sound again.

Took out the soundcard. booted without it.

Put soundcard back in.... sound back again.

So it seems that the order that you do things has an effect... ie in may case I had to put the soundcard in AFTER the tv card. Maybe Windows takes the last bit of hardware as the ovveriding driver when it comes to things like sound or video, which the tv card has as well. Although my gfx card didn`t get upset at all. Oh well, hope my experience helps.

Play around with the above before you try re-installing drivers or using rollback.

From a comment earlier... I also don`t know why so many posts are empty or just repeating a previous post.... is it a bug with the server software or is it just stupid ppl??? Pain in the arse.

Re: Fixed for me. Here`s How:

Can anyone tell me what to do when I get the message MMJB SOUNDCARD PROBLEM
Waveout format not supported? Can I fix this?

Re: MMJB Soundcard problem: waveout format not supported

: If anyone knows how to fix this problem please help. I have no sound when playing anything!

Re: MMJB Soundcard problem: waveout format not supported

: : If anyone knows how to fix this problem please help. I have no sound when playing anything!

Re: solution toMMJB Soundcard problem: waveout format not suppor

: : : the easy way to solve it it's to buy a sound blaster sound card and instal it on your comouter and thats it.

Re: MMJB Soundcard problem: waveout format not supported

I had this problem for a long time. I tried all the normal suggestions of reinstalling drivers. Reinstalling windows...everything.

Finally, out of despiration I went into the control panel and clicked on Administrative tools. From there I clicked on Services. Scrolled down and found Windows Audio had been disabled. I set it to auto and turned it on (hit start). Without even rebooting I got my sounds back. I am running WinXP and using a Soundblaster along with an onboard sound card.

Hope this helps.

Re: MMJB Soundcard problem: waveout format not supported

: If anyone knows how to fix this problem please help. I have no sound when playing anything!

Re: MMJB Soundcard problem: waveout format not supported

I had this problem for a long time. I tried all the normal suggestions of reinstalling drivers. Reinstalling windows...everything.

Finally, out of despiration I went into the control panel and clicked on Administrative tools. From there I clicked on Services. Scrolled down and found Windows Audio had been disabled. I set it to auto and turned it on (hit start). Without even rebooting I got my sounds back. I am running WinXP and using a Soundblaster along with an onboard sound card.

Hope this helps.

Solution to MMJB Soundcard problem: waveout format not supported

I've been searching for the answer to this for hours and not got anywhere - then found an article online mentioning a possible graphics card conflict...

All I've done is go into Internet Explorer, tools - internet options - advanced tab - and UNCHECKED the 'use smooth scrolling' box.

And I can play sounds from my hard drive again using music match! Luvverly.

Re: MMJB Soundcard problem: waveout format not supported

After trying every remedy I could find on the net - reistalling souncard, downloading new drivers etc - all to no avail.

Then I used a great little utility called AShampoo Startup Tuner, which allowed me to easily edit my windows registry. I disabled a couple of entries which didn't look right & lo and behold - all things back to normal - mp3s again!! Whoo hoo

Someone deleted my sound drivers from my comp

Someone deleted my sound drivers form my comp. i have windows ME... someone told me dat i have to install something called K7S5A for audio i did installed it form ecsusa.com but doesn't work..... if anyone knows how to fix this prob ppls pls help me out.. Also when i click on any song to play it says MMJB Sound card problem....

Re: Wave out format not supported MMJB sound Card problem report

My computer was installed with xp pro software. During internet download of my juebox plus update my
earlier player is not giving any audiable sound and
conveying the message as wave out format not supported MMJB Sound card problem.

Re: MMJB Soundcard problem: waveout format not supported

: If anyone knows how to fix this problem please help. I have no sound when playing anything!

MMJB Soundcard problem: waveout format not supported

: : If anyone knows how to fix this problem please help. I have no sound when playing anything!

Re: MMJB Soundcard problem: waveout format not supported

: : : If anyone knows how to fix this problem please help. I have no sound when playing anything!

Check the services under the control panel, specifically windows audio service, restart it.

Re: MMJB Soundcard problem: waveout format not supported

: If anyone knows how to fix this problem please help. I have no sound when playing anything!

I had the same problem. Reinstall the drivers for your soundcard will solve your problem.

JV1010

Could someone put some light on this for me.
How can I edit the GM sounds on this module.
I need to pan sounds to left side leaving the right for a click track for our drummer.
I am doing all the proper things on my DSP24 (sequencing programme on PC) eg: panning, shutting off chorus/reverb but for some reasonsome sound will still spil into other side.
For this type of thing I am setting the value switch to midi on the front panel of the module.
I am using keyboard to activate the module and using the DSP to edit.
I have asked roland but I did'nt get far there and I have read the JV manuals but it does'nt refer to my problem.

Any assistance will be mostly appreciated.

Thanx
Manny

manual for Kawai K4- I need it!

I need the manual for Kawai K4 Synth.
THX

Re: manual for Kawai K4- I need it!

: I need the manual for Kawai K4 Synth.
: THX

Re: manual for Kawai K4- I need it!

i have the manual for this keyboard.

Re: manual for Kawai K4- I need it!

: i have the manual for this keyboard.

hi guys,

just found this on the web:
http://www.angelfire.com/rant/thewaysect/k4.html
have a look and download your manual.

*tv

Re: manual for Kawai K4- I need it!

: I need the manual for Kawai K4 Synth.
: THX

Re: manual for Kawai K4- I need it!

I also need K4r manual. Please notify by email or here.

Lamont
lamontnt@aol.com

Thanks

Re: manual for Kawai K4- I need it!

I usually either send people to the obvious manufacturers site or to

www.synthzone.com

as they can often be found at either..

Rimmer

how can i play .xen musicfiles

i do have a cd with .xen files
is there a possabillity to play them ????

who can help me

thomusic@home.nl

how can i play .xen musicfiles

i do have a cd with .xen files
is there a possabillity to play them ????

who can help me

thomusic@home.nl

mixer routing help needed

Hi;

I just purchased a new system and I guess I am a little out of my depth now. I would sure appreciate any insight anyone can give me

I've got a custom DAW (digital audio workstation) with a Yamaha SW1000XG sound card and a Midiman Delta 44 soundcard. The Yamaha has the following plug connections;
1. Eternal Audio Input (A/D input). It connects to a stereo mini jack cable.
2. Line out out Terminal L/R these (two terminals) connect to RCA
3. Digital out Terminal, which connects to a S/PDIF type cable (which may also be called 'coaxial' since the other end is presently hooked into the stereo decoder of my speaker setup in a terminal labeled'coaxial'
4.MINI DIN 6pin Teriminal for MIDI

MIDIMAN SOUND CARD;
The Midiman soundcard has a breakaway box with four analog outs and four analog ins and they require 1/4 inch TRS (balanced) or TS (Tip-sleeve unbalanced) connections.

SPEAKER SETUP;
I have the Cambridge Soundworks DTT3500 Digital 5.1 speaker system which consists of two front and two rear speakers, a center speaker and a subwoofer. The terminal are as follows;
1. 2 RCA inputs for analog sound.
2. Coaxial, which at present is using a plug that looks just like an RCA, without the narrow notches in the sleeve.
3. Digital DIN
4. Optical

BEHRINGER MX1604A 12 channel mixer 4 bus mixer

Now, here's the deal. I would like to be able to control everything from the mixer (including the speakers...if that's not possible I assume we run the speakers from the two analog outs on the SW1000XG...which I'm not doing right now because that means mini-jack to RCA and I haven't been able to find that cable and the sales people act confused when I mention it..
I want to run cables from the MIDIMAN outs into the mixer...thereby controlling whatever I put 'in' the Midiman.
I want to connect to the Yamaha...routing in and out...so as to
control all that too. I can do internal mixing but I want to have ALL the possible options available to me that my system will allow for.

I would like to be able to control my speakers from the mixer as well. If this is possible. If it is not possible or intelligent it doesn't matter...as long as I can get sound from all of my speakers controllable through the speaker stereo decoder.

Otherwise I just operate with a guitar and microphone as well as the MIDI keyboard.

I would REALLY, REALLY, REALLY, REALLY appreciate any help you could give me. I have been going batshit trying to get this together. I'm an American in Germany
I have searched sites and tried to figure this out. It
may be that one of my problems is the speaker setup that I am trying to use....but this system is used for DVD and Video and CD systems as well as computer setups. Seems like it should work.
Once I can get the necessary cables and figure out the routing I should be on my way. Right now I am limping along.

At the moment I am monitoring my recording action
with the speakers on... I can't seem to get the headphone to isolate the internal mix, you can imagine how effective that is.
I'm hoping that you can look at my setup and figure out what cables I need and how I would route them
I would really appreciate your help. Please let me know what I need.

Any further questions you have I'll get right back to you about.
Thank you for the time you've spent reviewing this convoluted missive.

Re: mixer routing help needed

I need the right routing for my sonar3 using a yamaha mg 10/2 mixer. I can't get stero to record on my software, could you help?

Re: mixer routing help needed

I needed help myself, so I'm not technically equipped to help you...but I figured mine out some time ago. I think you need a digital mixer to do what you are asking to do...control the tracks in Sonar...since I only use voice and an instrument and do all of the other instruments inside the computer I did not need a digital mixer. Now I could be wrong about this- and that is a fact.

I'll tell you what you can do. Go into any half-way decent music store in your area and there are people there that will have all the answers you need, including inexpensive upgrades should they be required. Good Luck.

Les Visible

Re: mixer routing help needed

To be honest, I dred having to answer questions like this as it's to hard to 'imagine' having the system in front of you and see all the issues of feedback loops and problems. I will however bother to suggest a couple of things I would do to start.

I don't know what you are using the Yamaha for to be honest. I personally would concentrate on the Delta 44 to start. I might use the Yamaha for interfacing SP/DIF but that would probably be it.

The Behringer desk has 4 group outputs which is handy as the Delta 44 has four ins. I would route group outputs 1-4 into inputs 1-4 of the Delta. This means you can input anything into the mixer in line channels and route them to any Delta input you wish with the little assign buttons above the fader. There is often an issue with driver latency but the Delta card is apparently very good with latency issues. If this is not the case then you might need to insert out your inputs to the mixer to the Delta card so you can monitor from the desk without latency.

I would then route the outputs of the Delta card to either line inputs on the desk for monitoring the mix, (remember, if you do this and then route them to the Delta cards inputs in through the group outputs from the desk in error, you could create a loop which could damage something).

The outputs from the Delta is the information you are hearing and recording. You could therefore route it to a tape return on the desk to avoid feedback loops and then route tape return to the main stereo outputs of the mixer and then to your monitors.

I'll advance on a little here. Considering that you are now monitoring from 1 + 2 outputs from the Delta 44, you have 3 + 4 left. You could route these to two inputs on the mixer or ideally a Stereo Return that has an AUX SEND option. If the desks stereo returns don't have AUX sends then route Delta 44 channel 3 + 4 outputs to a stereo input in the desk that has any AUX SEND. The reason I say this is, you could say use the desks AUX SEND 1 + 2 as a headphone mix.

Say you have just recorded a guitar and vocal to two seperate tracks. A keyboard player turns up and wants a seperate mix from your main mix. From whatever software you have (assuming Logic Delta that comes with the Delta card) you could change the outputs from those tracks from the recorded tracks to Delta output 3 + 4 which would go to the desk, the AUX sends could then be turned up to suit the keyboard player and the desks AUX SEND outputs could be sent to a headphone mixer or spare HIFI amp or similar for headphone monitoring. Get the idea?

Again, without being there, it's hard to be 100% on these type of suggestions. I hope that made some sort of sense.

Regards

Rimmer

Re: mixer routing help needed

Rimmer;

thanks a ton for your input. I will definitely try all of that out. I use the Yamaha for all of the sounds. I am a songwriter...not a programmer or an engineer, so I need all the help I can get. Originally I wanted to record with the Yamaha and master with the Midiman...but I seem to be out of my depth. Since I work alone I have been using Band in the Box which I have a very good grasp of and I have been getting some terrific arrangements. I then record each Band in the Box instrument separately and then open them on their own individual track in Cool Edit Pro 2.0

I then can add guitar and vocals through the mixer and since I have most of the plugins and effects, including the entire Waves collection and all the Steinberg VST...converted to DX...I can get most anything done.

Since you are obviously much better informed than I am about all of this you may not think much of Band in the Box. I assure you though, in the right hands, it is a miracle...especially for me...alone and not a gifted musician (I can sing and write my ass off..otherwise I need help)...

I like the SW1000XG...should I not use it? I was hoping to do all my recording with it and then master everything in the Midiman which has true 24 bit processing (yamaha is only 20bit). I don't seem to have any latency problems....I don't mess with MIDI at all....that's way out of my league. But all that aside, I am getting some pretty good final results, to judge by the reactions of my audience...which is varied. Some of them are Germans however and there is NO ONE more critical than a German in these matters.

Once again...thanks for your input. I really appreciate it.

Re: mixer routing help needed

I would record with the Delta 44. Mastering is the process of finalising the mix and not the mixing down as such. I assume you would benefit from recording all the audio through the Delta card at 24 bit. If you have it, you should use it to it's best ability.

If the Yamaha is for making the sounds, then I don't see the point in using it as a recording interface at all. I would record all the audio through the Delta. Create, Mix and Mixdown in your chosen sequencer and then master to a file rather than to an outboard recording device. If you master to a file at 24 bit, then you can play it out the Delta at any time to an external recording device or ideally master it to an internal CD burner..

Regards

Rimmer

Re: mixer routing help needed

I'm getting an idea of what you mean. I wish you were around the corner and I could find some way to hire you for awhile. I'll have to look into how to fiddle with the soundcard settings to accomplish what you're talking about. I guess I use Sw1000XG in Band in the Box and for making instruments... then record them...then I switch to Midiman to mix down and output, using Midiman also for my vocals and guitar. What confuses me, along with a lot of other things that confuse me, is that you are still left with 16 bit at the end anyway because that is what goes on to CD...or am I wrong here...and the other thing is...I wonder can anyone tell the difference between 24 and 20 bit? I haven't yet.
If you get a chance, would you go to www.mp3.com (Search for Les Visible). They ask you to put in a name and an e-mail (which takes no time at all)to listen...and see what you think of some of the tunes I have there? I did them on my previous computer a few months ago with a soundblaster live. I don't know if you are into songwriters at all...but you seem like you know a lot, your opinion would be valuable to me. I know this may be asking a lot, you could be really busy...but, as I say, if you get the chance. Thanks for all your help and insight. It is appreciated.

Regard,
Les Visible

: I would record with the Delta 44. Mastering is the process of finalising the mix and not the mixing down as such. I assume you would benefit from recording all the audio through the Delta card at 24 bit. If you have it, you should use it to it's best ability.

: If the Yamaha is for making the sounds, then I don't see the point in using it as a recording interface at all. I would record all the audio through the Delta. Create, Mix and Mixdown in your chosen sequencer and then master to a file rather than to an outboard recording device. If you master to a file at 24 bit, then you can play it out the Delta at any time to an external recording device or ideally master it to an internal CD burner..

: Regards

: Rimmer

Re: mixer routing help needed

Your songs are quirky to say the least. Quite entertaining though. Very strong drums, too strong in a way.. You can obviously write. You voice is quite distinctive which is a blessing. One thing I rarely do is sing in public. I will play anything that makes a note but usually leave the singing to others.. ;/

The vocal is suprisingly clear, this is where most people fall down.. Well done... What mic are you using??

As far as 16-20-24 bit. It's all to do with the amount of detail that is sampled from an incoming signal. The argument in using 16bit instead of 20-24bit if you are mastering to 16bit CD's (24bit CD's are becoming a reality and that's not including DVD's 24bit audio) rages on and on. I personally record at 20 bit as I believe the difference between 16bits and 20 bits versus 20 bits to 24bits is quite different. The extra stress recording 24bits put on the system is quite substantial and it's up to you whether you see a value in using anything above 16bit. Personally, if I ever have the option to improve on quality, I do. If I had a Delta card I would use it at 24bit for sure..

Although the 24bit final mix is dithered to 16bit, the quality preserved whilst mixing with 20/24bit is said to be beneficial. Whether it is noticable to most people or anyone is the source of the argument. The choice is yours...

Get back to me if you have any issues. There are other well educated people on this forum that can answer these types of questions as well so make good use of it when you can..

All the best

Rimmer

Re: mixer routing help needed

Done...I've a few finished already...but as I said, I'm not getting the full meshed thing I'm looking for. Something about the warmth...even though I put them through T-Racks. It's almost as if...it's too clean...well, you'll see.

: Be sure to let me hear your first tune on the new system. Glad to hear that you use a decent mic and especially a decent preamp...

: regards

: Rimmer

Re: mixer routing help needed

Man...thanks for your input. I really appreciate it. I'm using an AKG D330BT...although I have The Antares Mic Mod...I'm not sure if I used it on those recordings, if I did I still used an AKG or an Earthworks or a Neuman. I'll take into consideration what you said about the drums. I have them high because of what I hear on the radio. I am looking to get my songs out and I do arrange, in some ways, to hit the market. I'm finishing up six CD's of different styles to take on my trip this winter...hoping somebody hears something.

So...it figures you are a musician. I'm not, I'm lucky if I can accompany myself on the guitar.

I don't have to worry about stress on my system. My system is serious powerful. It was custom built as a DAW...in fact, in some ways it's too clean and I'm having problems getting the nice blended mix that I got off of the soundblaster live. Thanks a ton for your thoughts. I'll keep you in mind on what you said. Aloha

: Your songs are quirky to say the least. Quite entertaining though. Very strong drums, too strong in a way.. You can obviously write. You voice is quite distinctive which is a blessing. One thing I rarely do is sing in public. I will play anything that makes a note but usually leave the singing to others.. ;/

: The vocal is suprisingly clear, this is where most people fall down.. Well done... What mic are you using??

: As far as 16-20-24 bit. It's all to do with the amount of detail that is sampled from an incoming signal. The argument in using 16bit instead of 20-24bit if you are mastering to 16bit CD's (24bit CD's are becoming a reality and that's not including DVD's 24bit audio) rages on and on. I personally record at 20 bit as I believe the difference between 16bits and 20 bits versus 20 bits to 24bits is quite different. The extra stress recording 24bits put on the system is quite substantial and it's up to you whether you see a value in using anything above 16bit. Personally, if I ever have the option to improve on quality, I do. If I had a Delta card I would use it at 24bit for sure..

: Although the 24bit final mix is dithered to 16bit, the quality preserved whilst mixing with 20/24bit is said to be beneficial. Whether it is noticable to most people or anyone is the source of the argument. The choice is yours...

: Get back to me if you have any issues. There are other well educated people on this forum that can answer these types of questions as well so make good use of it when you can..

: All the best

: Rimmer

Re: mixer routing help needed

Be sure to let me hear your first tune on the new system. Glad to hear that you use a decent mic and especially a decent preamp...

regards

Rimmer

More...

My reference to the drums was in fact referring to the first track... ;))

Rimmer

Re: mixer routing help needed

I'm getting an idea of what you mean. I wish you were around the corner and I could find some way to hire you for awhile. I'll have to look into how to fiddle with the soundcard settings to accomplish what you're talking about. I guess I use Sw1000XG in Band in the Box and for making instruments... then record them...then I switch to Midiman to mix down and output, using Midiman also for my vocals and guitar. What confuses me, along with a lot of other things that confuse me, is that you are still left with 16 bit at the end anyway because that is what goes on to CD...or am I wrong here...and the other thing is...I wonder can anyone tell the difference between 24 and 20 bit? I haven't yet.
If you get a chance, would you go to www.mp3.com (Search for Les Visible). They ask you to put in a name and an e-mail (which takes no time at all)to listen...and see what you think of some of the tunes I have there? I did them on my previous computer a few months ago with a soundblaster live. I don't know if you are into songwriters at all...but you seem like you know a lot, your opinion would be valuable to me. I know this may be asking a lot, you could be really busy...but, as I say, if you get the chance. Thanks for all your help and insight. It is appreciated.

Regard,
Les Visible

: I would record with the Delta 44. Mastering is the process of finalising the mix and not the mixing down as such. I assume you would benefit from recording all the audio through the Delta card at 24 bit. If you have it, you should use it to it's best ability.

: If the Yamaha is for making the sounds, then I don't see the point in using it as a recording interface at all. I would record all the audio through the Delta. Create, Mix and Mixdown in your chosen sequencer and then master to a file rather than to an outboard recording device. If you master to a file at 24 bit, then you can play it out the Delta at any time to an external recording device or ideally master it to an internal CD burner..

: Regards

: Rimmer

BTW...

Any music shop that doesn't know what a minjack stereo to two RCA lead is needs shutting down... ;))

Rimmer

Roland D110

Does anyone know where I can download a manual for the D110 synth module for free?
Help would be much appreciated.

Re: Roland D110

I have one of those but it hasn't been turned on for around 8 years now. It is a pig to program to be honest.. I owned a D10 when they came out in the late 80's which was a little easier to program.

If you can get a manual, I suspect it will either be from the Roland site or from somewhere like

www.synthzone.com/roland

Some good links from that page.. Best of luck

Rimmer

Re: Roland D110

: I have one of those but it hasn't been turned on for around 8 years now. It is a pig to program to be honest.. I owned a D10 when they came out in the late 80's which was a little easier to program.

: If you can get a manual, I suspect it will either be from the Roland site or from somewhere like

: www.synthzone.com/roland

: Some good links from that page.. Best of luck

: Rimmer

:Jude
:Thanks for that.

Seperating tracks of a song

Anyone know of a good audio editor/etc what will allow me to seperate instruments of a already finished wave file?

Re: Seperating tracks of a song

<sob> <sob> <sob>

Read the FAQ's as suggested before posting... Removing vocals or any instrument is equally tricky or impossible, take your pick

Rimmer

PTHUNK32.DLL

HI IF ANY 1 KNOWS WHERE 2 DOWNLOAD PTHUNK32.DLL COULD U PPLLEEAASSEE SEND ME THE WEBSITE

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