When I was 15, my buddy gave me a shitty mic. I had a tapedeck, so I figured I could record onto the tapedeck with the mic and my guitar. I plugged the MIC into the tape deck,and sang and played my electric. I knew I wasn't going to open air everything cuz I had tried that at a friends house and it sucked.

So I got a cable to run from the headphone out of my amp into the line in of the deck. I got a splitter too, so that I could plug the guiatr and MIC into the amp simultaneuosly. But then the guitar had no power, and couldn't go distorted even with the distortion on. I only recorded one tape like this. Lots of static. But I realized that MICs need power.

Next, I got two amps, plugged them into the spltter and into the tapedeck. Damn near blew the deck. Next lesson: Headphone out is too powerful. Try line.

Next, I had to give back the other amp, so I got a four channel mixer. Fed the MIC into a tapedeck with a MIC input and out to the four channel. Fed the guitar to my amp then to the four channel, From the four channel I went to the final tapedeck. Recorded 14 tapes like this. Couldn't do overdubs, or editing, etc. But it got great sound.

Next, I was introduced to MIDI. MAde MIDI song, plugged it and my mIC into the four channel, recorded to tape. Sounded pretty good. Did 1 song.

Next, I decided to record to my computer. Had only half-duplex (no simultaneuos play/record), so I used a splitter and fed the MIC into the left channel, and the guitar into the right. Edited each separately in CoolEdit, and mixed multiple versions together to create eerie panning effects and fades, filtering, and echoes, delays, etc. lot of work. Long time ago. Did four songs. They rocked, but the sound sucked. Lacked warmth.

Haven't recorded in years. Right now I'm waiting for my new computer to get here. PIII with Aardvark Direct Pro 24/96, Cubase VST, Gigasampler Full, Rebirth, Wavelab. This is what I will be using.

I have a feeling that I have replied to an earlier message that you posted on the HitSquad forum regarding removal of individual instruments from a stereo or mono recording. I noticed a new message from you saying "Look Steve Dude" in the title, was that me you were refering to??

Plain and simple answer this...

On the whole you don't really have a hope in hell of breaking your mix in seperate instrument tracks. I say 'on the whole' because it is loosely possible. You can 'sort of' remove the vocals from "some" recordings although not completely using a Karaoke type program that simply put, seperates the center of the mix from the rest of the stereo spectrum.

This can work reasonably well depending on the placement of instruments in the stereo field. If you had a track with 'No" stereo reverb on the vocals that were placed dead center in the mix and a guitar playing panned hard 'left' and another guitar panned hard 'right' the program would find it easy to blank out the guitars or the vocal. Add some stereo reverb to the vocals and maybe another guitar (what a track!!) roughly in the center of the mix
with a stereo string sound and the whole thing generally gets confused. Add all the noise and stereo confusion of some live recordings the whole thing becomes hopeless.

Look at it this way. Imagine your making a cake and you have 4 ingredients. Once you've mixed the ingredients together the chances of you seperating them are extremely remote. This is a loose comparison to the problem you are dealing with but it does explain the complexity of what you are expecting a computer to do.

Cheers

Steve...

If you have the processing power to do it, I think you can get Soundforge to record from the Wave Out, without any extra interconnects, but to do so, you probably need a lot of power, I tried doing something similar once, but just playing back a file, and recording, there was no real mixing going on, and it was using a lot of processor time.. anyways, it was done using an SB Live card.... try it out...

: I really need to record live what I do in fruity loops... I know about the whole internal sequencer and all that... but, I like to mix tracks live... and I would really like to be able to record straight to cooledit or soundforge while I mix in fruity. is this possible? do you need a special type of soundcard? or, is this just something that you cannot do with fruity loops? thanks

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I have only theorized this, but it should work. All you need is for someone to bug the software guys to develop it.

All you "I'm so big because I know how vocal removers and inverters work" guys will agree with me on this one I guarantee.

Check my math.

Original - (Original - Mono) = Mono.

That's right TWO PHASE INVERSIONS !

1. Invert right channel. Mix with original left channel. This gives Original - Mono (left).
2. Invert mono-canceled left channel. Mix with original left channel. This gives Original - (Original - Mono )

Sorry, I misunderstood your question!!!!

Something that leaves only the vocals?!? Never heard of it!

You don't need a computer program to do this. It's a fairly simple circuit called an inverter - you invert, i.e., put 180 degrees out of phase, say, the left channel of a stereo song, and then you mix it with the normal (in-phase) right channel. Anything that's in mono, i.e., exactly the same in both channels, cancels out. Usually this means (at least) the vocals, bass, and some of the drums will disappear.

I think they sell those things in the back of music mags, like Guitar Player or something. You might also approach an electronics tech-type person - if he knows his stuff he could build you one.

: I know you can copy cd to MP3. I know you can copy MP3 to .WAV. But how do you copy an MP3 DIRECTLY to CD?

Download the <a href="http://www.hitsquad.com/smm/programs/Nero_win32/">Nero Demo</a> - this program converts
MP3 'on the fly' and automatically records it onto
your CD-R.

Alf.

I use Logic on a Mac and must confess I don't know Cubase that well. The information that you should be looking for is to do with the System Exclusive information that is sent via Midi to and from Midi devices. If your sequencer is receiving SysEx information then it should record this information from your JP as you play. This will include program changes if selected and all manner of things like knob adjustments. I'm probably not much help as my experience with the JP has been having a fiddle in a music shop. Nice sounds though. Check that it and the sequencer has SysEx switched ON.

Cheers

Steve.

: I have a live digital recording(minidisc) of a concert I went to, but I had the recording volume set low. So I need to increase the volume a little without extra noise, and if possible increase the vocals. Any suggestions?

You need to get a two track editor for your computer like: Sound Forge, Wave Lab, Bias, something like that. With the careful use of EQ, compression, and normalization you can master your recording. Do you have a computer w/ a sound card?
A unit like TC Electronics Finalizer would also do the job.

Hope that helps