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Re: Wavelab vs. Red Roaster

Posted by Graham Franklin on Fri, 02/04/2000 - 14:27.

I have used both and have decided that overall Red Roaster wins hands down wavelab is nice but
roaster is a programm with nothing missing at all
I have masterd 5 cd's now using this software with a yamaha 4416SX and a RMI digi 32 card running on WinNT4 my sysytem is a doulble pentium 200MMx and have no problems...wave pales in to insignifice for me no way to multi track no automated mix down..nice for recording stuff for my sampler, but really it is the audio editor steinberg forgot to include with VST and for that it is very good, but for mastering CD's i canot recomend it abouve any of SEKD 's products.
As far as ease of use it isn't quite as quick to learn as wavelab but the extra effort is really worth it!!, I allows you to use any direct X plugs,and there isn't any thing as far as editing faciltys goes,great stuff like on the fly sample rate conversion, and it will even rip audio strait from your SCSI Cd....
A real killer app
Graham

Change music tempo while retaining pitch

Posted by John Whelan on Tue, 10/12/1999 - 00:43.

To assist learners of Celtic music, I need to be able to take a CD track and slow it down as much as 50% without changing the pitch of the music so that learners can learn and play along with the music until they are able to play it faster. I would take the original CD track, modify it to half tempo and burn it onto a learners CD. This would greatly assist those learning Celtic music much of which is played at a hectic pace.

Please advise where I can a simple and super cheap utility or application which will do this successfully for me.

Thanks for your help.

Regards,

John Whelan
Adelaide, Australia

Re: Change music tempo while retaining pitch

Posted by Anand Jog on Tue, 10/17/2000 - 16:42.

Hello,

I've been trying to get the same tool without much luck.
While there are a number of skins etc for winamp, none
seem to work on my computer. On a friend's some
DSP plug-ins work but crash the machine.

There are dedicated packages out there that will
do the stuff if you are willing to spend between
$50 - $100 and more.

Anand

Re: Change music tempo while retaining pitch

Posted by Don on Fri, 10/22/1999 - 03:53.

I use Cool Edit for this feature to transcribe notes from CDs etc. It's available as shareware at www.syntrillium.com

: To assist learners of Celtic music, I need to be able to take a CD track and slow it down as much as 50% without changing the pitch of the music so that learners can learn and play along with the music until they are able to play it faster. I would take the original CD track, modify it to half tempo and burn it onto a learners CD. This would greatly assist those learning Celtic music much of which is played at a hectic pace.

: Please advise where I can a simple and super cheap utility or application which will do this successfully for me.

: Thanks for your help.

: Regards,

: John Whelan
: Adelaide, Australia

Re: Change music tempo while retaining pitch

Posted by bjorn1 on Thu, 10/14/1999 - 20:07.

ACID by Sonic Foundry is the best program i have tried so far
regards

Re: Change music tempo while retaining pitch

Posted by nightfishing on Tue, 10/12/1999 - 02:48.

There's a dsp plugin that'll work with Winamp etc. and do exactly what you want. You can grab it at my site in the Skins section.

http://thrill.to/nightfishing

: To assist learners of Celtic music, I need to be able to take a CD track and slow it down as much as 50% without changing the pitch of the music so that learners can learn and play along with the music until they are able to play it faster. I would take the original CD track, modify it to half tempo and burn it onto a learners CD. This would greatly assist those learning Celtic music much of which is played at a hectic pace.

: Please advise where I can a simple and super cheap utility or application which will do this successfully for me.

: Thanks for your help.

: Regards,

: John Whelan
: Adelaide, Australia

CakeWalk 8 problems

Posted by Charlie on Mon, 10/11/1999 - 22:29.

I use CakeWalk 8 to mix songs and make my own cds. I only insert wav files from other CD and mix them. Randomly, when I try to insert a wav file Cakewalk 8 says "Unable to import wave file. The audio disk may be full". I have plenty of room (1gb) in my disk and I can continue to insert another wav files, but the ones that produces the message are imposible.

Someone had this problem? Any sugestion?

Thanks all!

Carlos Basualdo
Argentina

Re: CakeWalk 8 problems

Posted by Essesix on Tue, 10/12/1999 - 06:17.

Copy your WAV-File to your Harddisk first and THEN
import it in CakeWalk. I don't know CakeWalk, but it could be
that CakeWalk tries to make a temporary (Peak)file in the
same directory where the WAV-File is located.

: I use CakeWalk 8 to mix songs and make my own cds. I only insert wav files from other CD and mix them. Randomly, when I try to insert a wav file Cakewalk 8 says "Unable to import wave file. The audio disk may be full". I have plenty of room (1gb) in my disk and I can continue to insert another wav files, but the ones that produces the message are imposible.

: Someone had this problem? Any sugestion?

: Thanks all!

: Carlos Basualdo
: Argentina

Virtual Drummer 4.0.3, unstuff?

Posted by Bugs on Mon, 10/11/1999 - 22:11.

I've downloaded it ten times but it won't unstuff. Is it a bad file, or am I just lame?

Can you tell me what this tool is

Posted by PSYPHER on Mon, 10/11/1999 - 21:19.

I have seen several web pages (mostly hiphop sites) with a utlility that allows them to embed a sample in a webpage and loop it. Three buttons appear "Play", "Loop" and "Stop", or something like that. What is this utility, how do you use it, and where can I get it. (I'm sure it's at this site, I just don't know what it's called) Emailed response appreciated.

PSYPHER

Yamaha SU-700 Sampler

Posted by HC2 on Mon, 10/11/1999 - 16:42.

Have anyone tried the SU-700 sampler?

Re: Yamaha SU-700 Sampler

Posted by UMBRA on Fri, 01/21/2000 - 10:04.

: Have anyone tried the SU-700 sampler?

I only own one, but it is a gem if you have the updated rom, rock solid, sequencer, effects, and a kick ass sampler

Re: Yamaha SU-700 Sampler

Posted by ROB on Fri, 02/14/2003 - 16:29.

: : Have anyone tried the SU-700 sampler?

: I only own one, but it is a gem if you have the updated rom, rock solid, sequencer, effects, and a kick ass sampler

helP, I BAUGHT A SU700 OF SOMEONE WHO DIDNT HAVE A CLUE , I HAVE THE MANUAL BUT IM STUMPED....
cAN I SAMPLE ONE NOISE AND THEN USE CUBASE SX TO CHANGE THE PITCH WITHOUT THE TEMPO, iWANT IT TO DO WHAT MY FRIENDS AKAI CAN DO,, please help (MUSICIAN BUT NEW TO THE TECH SIDE)

Re: Yamaha SU-700 Sampler

Posted by shik on Sat, 09/06/2003 - 14:54.

: : : Have anyone tried the SU-700 sampler?

: : I only own one, but it is a gem if you have the updated rom, rock solid, sequencer, effects, and a kick ass sampler

:
: helP, I BAUGHT A SU700 OF SOMEONE WHO DIDNT HAVE A CLUE , I HAVE THE MANUAL BUT IM STUMPED....
: cAN I SAMPLE ONE NOISE AND THEN USE CUBASE SX TO CHANGE THE PITCH WITHOUT THE TEMPO, iWANT IT TO DO WHAT MY FRIENDS AKAI CAN DO,, please help (MUSICIAN BUT NEW TO THE TECH SIDE)

hi!! I am looking for the spanish manual. Can u help me!!. ,I have the sampler but I need the fucking spanish manual. thanks

Re:problem with downloading mp3 file

Posted by Cheryl on Mon, 10/11/1999 - 13:20.

When I download a mp3 file the viewer location is -
{405DE7C0-E7DD-11....2C5-00C0F01F77C1}
can anyone please help cause I have no idea what this
is. It will download till about 74% then it either freezes
or disappears. Would appreciate some help!! :-))

browser / URL ?

Posted by sniffa on Mon, 10/11/1999 - 13:54.

which browser do you use and where did you want
to leech the file?

greets,
sniffa

Re: browser / URL ?

Posted by Cheryl on Thu, 10/14/1999 - 09:52.

To sniffa
:The URL is www.mp3.com

cheers
Cheryl

which browser do you use and where did you want
: to leech the file?

: greets,
: sniffa

site update 10/10/99

Posted by Plastic ParK music productions on Mon, 10/11/1999 - 07:51.

flyers are now up...

making rock/techno etc software

Posted by Grimnar on Mon, 10/11/1999 - 06:05.

i need an easy to use rock/techno digital music making software?, i have used the demo of future beat and also Koan X silver, i prefer future beat though.
The question is - is there a really good program out there that is not too expensive but can make really good music?, i don't have much experience with music making at all, but just seem really interested by these two programs.

thanx

Re: making rock/techno etc software

Posted by sniffa on Mon, 10/11/1999 - 06:19.

seems as you were searching for a simple to
handle program to make music...
music maker.

I don't like it but it's easy to understand and
all you need are WAVe-samples. there a lots of
programs in this style (audio-sequencers) and they
often cost less than $40.

but if you want to go a step further get a
tracker (fast tracker 2, impulse tracker). with
these progs you can play notes and the IT also
offers resonance and cutoff filters.

if you want to have a copy send an email.

greets,
sniffa

Re: making rock/techno etc software

Posted by rayburn on Wed, 08/20/2003 - 17:38.

: seems as you were searching for a simple to
: handle program to make music...
: music maker.

: I don't like it but it's easy to understand and
: all you need are WAVe-samples. there a lots of
: programs in this style (audio-sequencers) and they
: often cost less than $40.

: but if you want to go a step further get a
: tracker (fast tracker 2, impulse tracker). with
: these progs you can play notes and the IT also
: offers resonance and cutoff filters.

: if you want to have a copy send an email.

: greets,
: sniffa

Hey my friend I hope you read this cuz I want that program too. Where can I get it ?

Re: making rock/techno etc software

Posted by DirtWeed on Thu, 06/28/2001 - 23:55.

: seems as you were searching for a simple to
: handle program to make music...
: music maker.

: I don't like it but it's easy to understand and
: all you need are WAVe-samples. there a lots of
: programs in this style (audio-sequencers) and they
: often cost less than $40.

: but if you want to go a step further get a
: tracker (fast tracker 2, impulse tracker). with
: these progs you can play notes and the IT also
: offers resonance and cutoff filters.

: if you want to have a copy send an email.

: greets,
: sniffa

ya i want a copy!! are you selling something or did I just need to contact you ? Please let me know.Thanks

Re: Making Rock/Techno/Jazz software YES

Posted by Hano Janssens on Fri, 10/15/1999 - 08:57.

: A simple to use program to make music...
: "Band in a Box". It uses MIDI, you don't need a heavy computer to use it, and it's not expensive

: I like it but it's not really build to play Techno. It plays Jazz, country -heavy metal. you just have to fill out the Chords.
: You don't need any WAVE-samples which eats all the memory of your computer. Use the sound from a General Midi compatible SoundCard or any external Sound sound source that cab be triggered true MIDI. Enjoy the music.

Re: Making Rock/Techno/Jazz software YES

Posted by Hano Janssens on Fri, 10/15/1999 - 08:59.

: A simple to use program to make music...
: "Band in a Box". It uses MIDI, you don't need a heavy computer to use it, and it's not expensive

: I like it but it's not really build to play Techno. It plays Jazz, country -heavy metal. you just have to fill out the Chords.
: You don't need any WAVE-samples which will eat all the memory of your computer. Use the sound from a General Midi compatible SoundCard or any external Sound-source that can be triggered true MIDI. Enjoy the music.

MusicTime 2.0 on Win95

Posted by Chris on Mon, 10/11/1999 - 02:35.

OK, its been 2 years since I've used Windows 3.1 and Music Time. A lot has changed - or so I thought. I upgraded my computer to Windows 95 about a year and a half ago. I go to install MusicTime 2.0 (from floppy) on my computer, and everything installs fine. Go to start up MusicTime, and get this wonderful error message:

"A device attached to the system is not working"

Can anyone give me a hand with this? PLEASE, PLEASE, PLEASE, email any help you can provide, as this isn't a forum I usually visit, and I probably won't find it again. Thank you all in advance.

Re: MusicTime 2.0 on Win95

Posted by Agi on Mon, 10/18/1999 - 07:10.

: OK, its been 2 years since I've used Windows 3.1 and Music Time. A lot has changed - or so I thought. I upgraded my computer to Windows 95 about a year and a half ago. I go to install MusicTime 2.0 (from floppy) on my computer, and everything installs fine. Go to start up MusicTime, and get this wonderful error message:

: "A device attached to the system is not working"

: Can anyone give me a hand with this? PLEASE, PLEASE, PLEASE, email any help you can provide, as this isn't a forum I usually visit, and I probably won't find it again. Thank you all in advance.

Re: MusicTime 2.0 on Win95

Posted by Samuel L R on Mon, 10/25/1999 - 15:49.

: : OK, its been 2 years since I've used Windows 3.1 and Music Time. A lot has changed - or so I thought. I upgraded my computer to Windows 95 about a year and a half ago. I go to install MusicTime 2.0 (from floppy) on my computer, and everything installs fine. Go to start up MusicTime, and get this wonderful error message:

: : "A device attached to the system is not working"

: : Can anyone give me a hand with this? PLEASE, PLEASE, PLEASE, email any help you can provide, as this isn't a forum I usually visit, and I probably won't find it again. Thank you all in advance.

OK......This is the solution I found and it worked. Your system it doesn't recocognize anastasia font, even though is in the font directory. Get ATM (Adobe Type Manager) load it and load through this way the fonts that Music time directory has, like anastasia and others.
If you can not load the fonts it might be a need to uninstall a few fonts from the windows directory because there is a limit for that.
Good luck..
Any question send me an e-mail

Any freeware programs like eJay?

Posted by sean on Sun, 10/10/1999 - 23:32.

I've no money to buy the full version of Hip Hop eJay. Does anyone know of a similar product that is freeware? Please email me. Thanks. justapunck@yawho.com

Re: Any freeware programs like eJay?

Posted by astro gastro on Fri, 02/18/2000 - 12:30.

NO

: I've no money to buy the full version of Hip Hop eJay. Does anyone know of a similar product that is freeware? Please email me. Thanks. justapunck@yawho.com

T-Racks

Posted by nightfishing on Sun, 10/10/1999 - 21:34.

I am trying to run the demo of TRacks, but I seem to have a display problem. When I open the prog, I don't get the CP or anyhting accessable. All I have is a "shockwave-like" black screen with freq. readings etc.
Anyone have an ideas ????

Re: T-Racks

Posted by Jain on Mon, 10/18/1999 - 03:33.

: I am trying to run the demo of TRacks, but I seem to have a display problem. When I open the prog, I don't get the CP or anyhting accessable. All I have is a "shockwave-like" black screen with freq. readings etc.
: Anyone have an ideas ????

delete it.
T-Racks is worthless anyway. They spent all their time making it look good instead of making it worthwhile. It's stupid.
Look into something like CEP or Sound Forge and then get some plugs..

Re: T-Racks

Posted by Addy and Cam on Fri, 11/05/1999 - 20:16.

: delete it.
: T-Racks is worthless anyway. They spent all their time making it look good instead of making it worthwhile. It's stupid.
: Look into something like CEP or Sound Forge and then get some plugs..

Tinkin bout gettin T Racks but this dude sez
it's no good. Any other users feel let down
by it? Or really dig it?

ORCHESTRATOR format converter needed

Posted by Alfred Simó on Sun, 10/10/1999 - 21:12.

I need an ORCH to MIDI format converter, because I had my DIGITAL ORCHESTRATOR sequencer bought together with one of my soundcards, but recently I lost my CD and I really need a converter to transform my ORCH files into MIDI files. I don't want at all to buy a new DIGITAL ORCHESTRATOR, I think it's a good sequencer but I work with better sequencers right now.

Re: ORCHESTRATOR format converter needed

Posted by The Educator on Sat, 10/16/1999 - 02:58.

: MIDI Orchestrator (Plus) should do since it's practically DOP minus the audio functions, 'diatonic transpose', looping and some of the more advanced MIDI transform options (unless Voyetra implemented them after my interest in the program waned somehow). If you need to recover any audio tracks from your ORC files you won't be able to save them in a MIDI format anyway. (You can manually extract them in an audio editor such as WaveLab or Sound Forge opening the ORC files as raw audio data.)
MIDI Orchestrator Plus shouldn't be hard to get. It used to accompany the AWE cards so ask your friends or check the Voyetra and Creative sites.

Best techno software to use

Posted by Kevin Sookocheff on Sun, 10/10/1999 - 20:09.

What would you guy's say is the best package of software (Freeware would be nice) for making techno songs. I'm an avid musician in a band and have been looking for a long time at getting into rave, dance, and techno music. What's the best possible way to start out, preferably for the least amount of $$.

Thanx

Re: Best techno software to use

Posted by sniffa on Mon, 10/11/1999 - 06:23.

as written above in another posting:
get a tracker. they are free-/shareware and all
you need are WAVe-samples and there are plenty
within the i-net.

if you want a copy send an email.

greets,
sniffa

HOW CAN I CHANGE THE FREQUENCY (KHZ) OF A WAV FILE?

Posted by Assaf on Sun, 10/10/1999 - 19:22.

I really need to know how can I change the frequency
of a wave file, WHICH SOFTWARE CAN HELP ME DO THAT?
PLEASE HELP ME and E-mail ME.

Use wavelab or sound forge

Posted by Mic on Sun, 10/10/1999 - 21:57.

Load the files into them, convert them into anything you want and save them back...

Seeking (Macintosh) software advice

Posted by J. R. Norton on Sun, 10/10/1999 - 11:33.

I have looked through a number of leading mail-order and developer websites for products -- and am bewildered. (But not bewitched or bothered.)

I sing in a community chorus and sometimes I need to work on my vocal part by putting my part in a notation program and playing it back, over and over, until I get it right. (It's effective, even though it is like dating an elementary school teacher.) This worked fine back when I had my Mac SE and DCMS was my only application choice, but now I have a Power Mac 6500 and am having trouble finding software that does the same sort of thing.

Is there a software package you'd recommend that would allow me to notate my part and play it back? Please note: << I do not need to produce music copy, or ready-to-publish music. I am neither a composer or an arranger. I simply want to create a file that will reproduce a single part-line so that I can practice my vocal part>>

I am not a music professional or composer, so Finale and Allegro are really "overkill." Can you recommend a freeware, shareware, or software product (and its online or URL source) that would help me accomplish this?

[System: Power Mac 6500/300 running on Mac OS 8.1, 64 Mb RAM, no MIDI/keyboard interface. See, DCMS on an old SE was just fine... but cannot run on Power Mac.]

TIA,
J. R. Norton
Baritone, Denver Gay Men's Chorus
A whole list of relevant credentials

rebirth mods wont work?

Posted by psychosexy on Sun, 10/10/1999 - 09:49.

does anybody out there have problems with the rebirth 2.01 mods? i have downloaded about 7 and only one of them will work, the one that did work was redtop2, any suggestions?

Re: rebirth mods wont work?

Posted by pissed off programmer on Thu, 10/21/1999 - 05:25.

Buy the software you cheap ass ho

What do you think of mp3.com?

Posted by stig on Sun, 10/10/1999 - 02:36.

Is there some kind of musicians backlash looming for MP3.com? I've noticed on web sites and newsgroups that some musicians have been dissatisfied with the numbers of CDs they've sold (or lack of). I don't get it! Mp3.com gives bands a pretty good deal for free in a similar way that Geocities gives free web space. But they don't promise to sell all your CDs or turn you into a star. Nor should they. They give you some of the tools you might need to get well known. I get the idea that some people (unhappy musicians) think they should be 'big' simply because they've got a few MP3 files on their page and have a cool site. That's really not enough. If you want to sell your music, there's more to it than bunging a few files on a server and hope people will pay. All of us like free stuff and if a song is good we'll download it and keep it. Will we pay for it though? Have you bought every song you liked when you downloaded it off MP3.com? I haven't.

But are people happy with MP3.com? This maybe not the best place to post this message but I know there's heaps of muso people here who might have something good to say. I'm just curious what people think...

Stig

where can i get the diskwritter plug-in for winamp?

Posted by chaco taco on Sun, 10/10/1999 - 01:52.

and how do i convert mp3s to wave with this plug-in?

Re: where can i get the diskwritter plug-in for winamp?

Posted by nightfishing on Sun, 10/10/1999 - 02:59.

It comes with every install of WA.

To use it just select it from the options as an output and Viola, you have a wav.

: and how do i convert mp3s to wave with this plug-in?

Audio file formats Demystified??

Posted by plumbob on Sun, 10/10/1999 - 01:39.

Okay........a little help please!!!!!!
Audio file formats.........wav...........MP3...............ra................etc
(that's not a format abbreviation...that stands for etcetera)
Can someone explain for us novices what the differences are between these formats and
how we can go about converting them from one to another as needed!!!!!

Mainly, what is the accepted format for CD?????? Is "redbook standard" a particular
format?? If so, which??????

Re: Audio file formats Demystified??

Posted by nightfishing on Sun, 10/10/1999 - 03:44.

WAV - uncompressed audio standard format. Best for quality. Takes up an enormous amount of disk space (hence the "need" for all the other formats.

CDA - the format of tracks on an ordinary Audio CD. Simply they are WAVs "cataloged" to play in a CD Player.

MP3 - compressed (generally about 11 to 1) WAV files. Great for storing on a HD, but suffer from drastic sound quality loss. Perfect for playback on a computer (or similar.) Can be "uncompressed" or decoded back to WAVs and burned onto a CD, but the resulting quality is very poor.

RA - Real Audio files, another compressed file, generally used for internet purposes (in conjecture with Real Player). Again, quality is forfeited for size and usability.

VQF, WMA (etc) - Various (albeit, less common) alternatives to MP3s. They all claim to be better than the other.

The most common "conversions" are as follows...

"Ripping a CD" to MP3 - Here you take a CD and "rip" the tracks off of it to your HD. 1001 programs to do this, some good some bad. Variables in this conversion include bitrates and sample rates and the choices made will determine sound quality and size.
For internet purposes, the standard, at the moment is 160kbs@44,100hz.

"decoding" a MP3 to a WAV - Here you are taking a compressed file and uncompressing it to enable you to write it to a CD. The resulting CD, while suffering in Sound Quality, can be played back on any CD player as would a "normal" Audio CD.

Converting MP3s to VQFs to RAs etc, can all be done, but the need for this isn't that great. Many audio players can play back several file types.

: Okay........a little help please!!!!!!
: Audio file formats.........wav...........MP3...............ra................etc
: (that's not a format abbreviation...that stands for etcetera)
: Can someone explain for us novices what the differences are between these formats and
: how we can go about converting them from one to another as needed!!!!!

: Mainly, what is the accepted format for CD?????? Is "redbook standard" a particular
: format?? If so, which??????

How to make Generator and Cubasis work together..?

Posted by Erik on Sun, 10/10/1999 - 00:11.

I´d like to know what I´ll need to make my Generator and Cubasis sned and receive midi-messages from one to the other.

Re: How to make Generator and Cubasis work together..?

Posted by NOOR ASLAM KHAN on Sat, 06/23/2001 - 10:28.

: I´d like to know what I´ll need to make my Generator and Cubasis sned and receive midi-messages from one to the other.

Re: How to make Generator and Cubasis work together..?

Posted by ale king on Wed, 03/06/2002 - 20:08.

: : I´d like to know what I´ll need to make my Generator and Cubasis sned and receive midi-messages from one to the other.

and what's the precedure to make that

you could also try Rewire

Posted by sniffa on Mon, 10/11/1999 - 06:33.

but I'm not sure if it's only for use with
rebirth and cubase.

check the steinberg homepage if you're interested
http://www.steinberg.de

greets,
sniffa

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