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Cakewalk Simultaneous Recording and Playback

Posted by Mike C on Wed, 11/17/1999 - 23:02.

I just got Cakewalk software with my new SoundBlaster Live Platinum (which I love, inputs and outputs of every size imaginable on the front of the comp!). I can record audio just fine into each track, but I need to hear a playback of all previous tracks while a record the following track. I'll I can hear during recording is a metronome. Any suggestions?

Re: Cakewalk Simultaneous Recording and Playback

Posted by chertzy on Sat, 11/20/1999 - 12:26.

unfortunately now you need a mixer to mix the playback and source together. In fact you need a 4-buss mixer or a mixer with send/return.
In the case of a 4-buss, 2 busses (L/R) go into the Live card rec, the other 2 go to your monitoring. You can control how much of each go to the speakers and how much of each go to the recorder.
If you feed the output of a 2 buss to both speakers and recorder, you'll get "howl-round" when you fade up the "playback" tracks......they will be fed back to record in and out again etc etc

Re: Cakewalk Simultaneous Recording and Playback

Posted by Kris Bredwell on Wed, 07/18/2001 - 17:25.

The Poor man's solution is:
If you have a processor us the headphone jack to monitor what your doing with the sound. Go to Radio shack and get a Gold 1/4 to 1/8 converter, and a Y headphone jack if you don't have a headphone and out jack on your Keyboard. The reason for the Gold converter is to limit line noise. I have a crap guitar and a cheep keyboard and I get limited line noise. . .and im going thru the soundcard on my CPU. Hope this helps my friends out their without alot of cash.

kris

: unfortunately now you need a mixer to mix the playback and source together. In fact you need a 4-buss mixer or a mixer with send/return.
: In the case of a 4-buss, 2 busses (L/R) go into the Live card rec, the other 2 go to your monitoring. You can control how much of each go to the speakers and how much of each go to the recorder.
: If you feed the output of a 2 buss to both speakers and recorder, you'll get "howl-round" when you fade up the "playback" tracks......they will be fed back to record in and out again etc etc

Re: Cakewalk Simultaneous Recording and Playback

Posted by Lenny on Fri, 11/26/1999 - 19:34.

: unfortunately now you need a mixer to mix the playback and source together. In fact you need a 4-buss mixer or a mixer with send/return.
: In the case of a 4-buss, 2 busses (L/R) go into the Live card rec, the other 2 go to your monitoring. You can control how much of each go to the speakers and how much of each go to the recorder.
: If you feed the output of a 2 buss to both speakers and recorder, you'll get "howl-round" when you fade up the "playback" tracks......they will be fed back to record in and out again etc etc

If I know Creative Labs correctly, before you buy expensive hardware, open "Surround Mixer" from Creative Launcher. Select appropriate settings (f.e. Compose deskop Music and MIDI sequencing) and try again,

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Re: Cakewalk Simultaneous Recording and Playback

Posted by Mike C on Sat, 11/27/1999 - 20:02.

I finally got it working. I searched under every menu and submenu and finally found a simple check box to enable it. I don't know why it wouldn't be set up to be automatically enabled since the software was bundled with my SB Live card.

Re: Cakewalk Simultaneous Recording and Playback

Posted by Lenny on Mon, 11/29/1999 - 18:59.

: I finally got it working. I searched under every menu and submenu and finally found a simple check box to enable it. I don't know why it wouldn't be set up to be automatically enabled since the software was bundled with my SB Live card.

This is a typical overkill: they Creative labs wanted to create Professional Quality soundcard for regular users. You;kk get used to it. The Sound card is really good thou.

Kawai Q80 files to MID. & vice versa

Posted by Peter Vorenholt on Wed, 11/17/1999 - 22:07.

Who can give me a solution to convert Kawai Q80 files in to MID. & vice versa ?

Re: Kawai Q80 files to MID. & vice versa

Posted by Joachim on Sun, 11/21/1999 - 23:54.

: Who can give me a solution to convert Kawai Q80 files in to MID. & vice versa ?

I don`t think that there is a converter. I have a lot of Q80 midifiles and I connet the Q80 via midi to the PC midi in. It`s not comfortable, but a possible way.
rgds joachim

Re: Kawai Q80 files to MID. & vice versa

Posted by Joachim on Sun, 11/21/1999 - 23:57.

: : Who can give me a solution to convert Kawai Q80 files in to MID. & vice versa ?
correction of my last text:
: I don`t think that there is a converter. I have a lot of Q80 midifiles and I connect the Q80 via midi to the PC midi in. It`s not comfortable, but a possible way.
: rgds joachim

Re: Kawai Q80 files to MID. & vice versa

Posted by dicky on Wed, 09/26/2001 - 09:32.

Borrow a Q80 ex or get an upgrade kit if they are still available if not play between 2 sequencers.

Re: Kawai Q80 files to MID. & vice versa

Posted by Larry on Wed, 08/15/2001 - 22:54.

: : : Who can give me a solution to convert Kawai Q80 files in to MID. & vice versa ?
: correction of my last text:
: : I don`t think that there is a converter. I have a lot of Q80 midifiles and I connect the Q80 via midi to the PC midi in. It`s not comfortable, but a possible way.
: : rgds joachim

Try the site - www.giebler.com. I have used his Kawai Q80 conversion software for about a year and it works great!

Regards:
Larry

converting wav to midi

Posted by Kay on Wed, 11/17/1999 - 21:26.

Is there a way to convert wav files into midi files? tyia

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Re: converting wav to midi

Posted by Geoff on Wed, 11/17/1999 - 23:38.

Hello,

Yes there is! Try WAVmaker. You'll find some information on it <a href="http://www.hitsquad.com/smm/news/9911_117/">here</a>.

Cheers
Geoff

: Is there a way to convert wav files into midi files? tyia

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Posted by null on Tue, 07/20/2004 - 13:52.

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i don't think so...

Posted by Xinhua on Thu, 11/18/1999 - 01:42.

: Hello,

: Yes there is! Try WAVmaker. You'll find some information on it <a href="http://www.hitsquad.com/smm/news/9911_117/">here</a>.

: Cheers
: Geoff

: : Is there a way to convert wav files into midi files? tyia

I don't think there is a software available, which can convert .wav file (= sound /voice) to .mid file (= music score / music note). Music note are c, #c, d, #d, = special frequency, say a = 440 hz, something like that. And voices are physical vibration with wide frequency range. And most of the frequencies are not 440 hz, 440(2)^(1/12) hz, …880 hz. you need a FFT (Fast Fourier Transformation) program to convert wave (time domain) to spectra (frequency domain ). And then do lots of artificial intelligent analysis, and fuzzy analysis to get the basic frequency and shift them to the nearest c, c#, … system. You still get error. 10 years ago, I worked on this area, and wrote programs, which could do this kind of job: the software could list to solo (vocal or instrument)and convert wave to music score. If any body knows there is some software in the world can to the similar work, I am really interested in knowing it though I have quitted for a long time, please let me know, thanks!

But converting from mid code to music wave, this is very easy, using hard ware, electronic circuits, or software (this is the best way without sound chip, generating wave file directly).

I have left this area for years, maybe need to upgrade, thanks for updating me!

Xinhua
xinhua@manifole-engng.com

Re: i don't think so...

Posted by nightfishing on Thu, 11/18/1999 - 03:40.

There are several progs that will take wavs and translate them to midi. They are not 100% accurate (think of them to music as OCR's are to text - they are not perfect, but they'll save you a lot of time).

Some are designed for live input (ie Sound2MIDI) and allow you to sing/play an instrument and create a MIDI file.

Others will take a WAV and translate it.

DigitalEar claims to be very accurate, including vibrato/slurs etc, but I've only used it for very basic melody lines.

Akoff's Composer is also well regarded in this area.

Most of these progs have trial/demo versions that you can test before you purchase.

Hope this helps.

Re: i don't think so...

Posted by Xinhua on Fri, 11/19/1999 - 03:42.

Very glad to know that, and seems that people are interested in doing so.

However, there are still something unknown.
1) In 12-equal temperament, frequencies: a = 880hz, #a=(2)^(1/12)=932.33 hz, . . .
what would we get if the singer or player play the frequencies in between of this system?

2) what if they sing / play the temperaments other than 12-equal one? Say, pure temperament, 5th circle, or others that is even far away from those?

3) the above questions1)+2). We have thousands of records from folk singers /instrument players. They don't know a, #a, b, . . . just wonder what could we get?

Who got sharp ears like Bela Bartok.

To do a good job, normally need 1-mathematician (vector analysis in functional space of high dimensions) 2--physicist (acoustics, spectrum analysis) 3-musician knowing temperament 4-computer expert. Even having 4 of them siting together, they can not talk. No common language. However, I am 4 in one. But I quitted from this field.

Thanks again for updating me.
Xinhua

: Hope this helps.

my correct email address is...

Posted by Xinhua on Thu, 11/18/1999 - 02:00.

sorry, i typed my e-mail address wrongly

the correct address is:

xinhua@manifold-engng.com

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Cakewalk Home Studio Basics

Posted by Treasureseeker on Wed, 11/17/1999 - 18:03.

Want to create just simple midi files for now.Just got
a Yamaha PSR-270 keyboard and Cakewalk HS9. I have it
all set up and recording after much trial & error. Could
anyone just give me the basics for creating my 1st midi?
All the hi-tech talk is in the help files is over my
head. Need instructions from beginning to end. Thanks.
Email would be nice.

Re: Cakewalk Home Studio Basics

Posted by Johnny Hadley on Fri, 12/03/1999 - 05:04.

I to am over my head I purchased HS 9 and a midi keyboard but cant get the two to talk to each other Hellllllp

Re: Cakewalk Home Studio Basics

Posted by treasureseeker on Fri, 12/03/1999 - 21:21.

Hey, I remembered posting on here, finally. Thanks for all your help.

CUBASE V2.0 INSTRUCTIONS

Posted by Chris on Wed, 11/17/1999 - 17:42.

Can anyone send me, or tell me where to find, instructions for Cubase V2.0?

Cheers

Chris

CUBASE V1.02 INSTRUCTIONS

Posted by fabio on Fri, 08/15/2003 - 15:52.

: Can anyone send me, or tell me where to find, instructions for Cubase V1.02?

: Cheers

: FABIO

CUBASE V2.0 INSTRUCTIONS

Posted by fabio on Fri, 08/15/2003 - 15:50.

: Can anyone send me, or tell me where to find, instructions for Cubase V2.0?

: Cheers

:fabio

Re: CUBASE V2.0 INSTRUCTIONS

Posted by Dave on Wed, 04/10/2002 - 10:50.

: Can anyone send me, or tell me where to find, <B style="color:black;background-color:#A0FFFF">instructions</B> for <B style="color:black;background-color:#ffff66">Cubase</B> V2.0?

: Cheers

: Chris

Hello, i am also after instructions for Cubase, so could you send me them if u get them please?

RESEARCHING A VERY PERFORMING SOFT

Posted by PRESIDENT TOTO on Wed, 11/17/1999 - 17:41.

IN YEAR 1995 I VISITED THE SCITRECK EXHIBIT OF ATLANTA AND I WAS ASTONISHED BY A COMPUTER MACHINE THAT ALLOWED ME TO PLAY MUSIC IN A PHILHARMONIC FASHION...IT HAS A JOY-STICK TO MOVE ON A PIANO SET LOCATED ON THE SCREEN .ALSO YOU CAN GO THRU ALL THE VERSIONS OF SYMPHONIC INSTRUMENTS...MAY ANYONE TELL ME WHERE I CAN FIND SUCH SOFTWARE...THANKS AHEAD///ISHIRINI NA KENDA SHOW BUSINESS BOSS ENTERPRISE///

RESEARCHING A VERY PERFORMING SOFT

Posted by PRESIDENT TOTO on Wed, 11/17/1999 - 17:33.

IN YEAR 1995 I VISITED THE SCITRECK EXHIBIT OF ATLANTA AND I WAS ASTONISHED BY A COMPUTER MACHINE THAT ALLOWED ME TO PLAY MUSIC IN A PHILHARMONIC FASHION...IT HAS A JOY-STICK TO MOVE ON A PIANO SET LOCATED ON THE SCREEN .ALSO YOU CAN GO THRU ALL THE VERSIONS OF SYMPHONIC INSTRUMENTS...MAY ANYONE TELL ME WHERE I CAN FIND SUCH SOFTWARE...THANKS AHEAD///ISHIRINI NA KENDA SHOW BUSINESS BOSS ENTERPRISE///

cubasis vst

Posted by zane on Wed, 11/17/1999 - 17:18.

Steinberg recently came out with a VST version of Cubasis. Does anyone know if it's out for mac and where I can get it?
Thanx
Zane

slightly off topic but ...

Posted by Matt Hurst on Wed, 11/17/1999 - 16:44.

I'm a radio journalist and I want to transfer bits of interview from my minidisc to PC to edit them into packages, and output them back onto minidisc.

I've just traded up from cassette and razor/sticky tape editting. A friend uses Premiere to edit video - something with that kind of feel would suit me fine.

Any suggestions for software... preferably shareware or freeware? I've got a basic-ish wavetable soundcard - will that do the job?

Answers please!!!

Thanks

Matt

Re: slightly off topic but ...

Posted by Geoff on Wed, 11/17/1999 - 23:35.

Hello Matt,

This isn't an off topic question. What you need is an audio editor, preferably one which has the ability to apply effects and so forth (just in case you need them). You should head to our <a href="http://www.hitsquad.com/smm/cat/AUDIO_EDITORS/">audio editors</a> section. A popular audio editor is Cool Edit 96. You may want to try a multi-track recorder if you have multiple voices and want to do anything in the radio documentary genre. You'll find multi-trackers <a href="http://www.hitsquad.com/smm/cat/MULTITRACK_RECORDING/">here</a>. N-track is a good multi-tracker.

Cheers
Geoff

: I'm a radio journalist and I want to transfer bits of interview from my minidisc to PC to edit them into packages, and output them back onto minidisc.

: I've just traded up from cassette and razor/sticky tape editting. A friend uses Premiere to edit video - something with that kind of feel would suit me fine.

: Any suggestions for software... preferably shareware or freeware? I've got a basic-ish wavetable soundcard - will that do the job?

: Answers please!!!

: Thanks

: Matt

Re: slightly off topic but ...

Posted by lenny on Tue, 11/30/1999 - 14:54.

: Hello Matt,

: This isn't an off topic question. What you need is an audio editor, preferably one which has the ability to apply effects and so forth (just in case you need them). You should head to our <a href="http://www.hitsquad.com/smm/cat/AUDIO_EDITORS/">audio editors</a> section. A popular audio editor is Cool Edit 96. You may want to try a multi-track recorder if you have multiple voices and want to do anything in the radio documentary genre. You'll find multi-trackers <a href="http://www.hitsquad.com/smm/cat/MULTITRACK_RECORDING/">here</a>. N-track is a good multi-tracker.

: Cheers
: Geoff

:
: : I'm a radio journalist and I want to transfer bits of interview from my minidisc to PC to edit them into packages, and output them back onto minidisc.

: : I've just traded up from cassette and razor/sticky tape editting. A friend uses Premiere to edit video - something with that kind of feel would suit me fine.

: : Any suggestions for software... preferably shareware or freeware? I've got a basic-ish wavetable soundcard - will that do the job?

: : Answers please!!!

: : Thanks

: : Matt

Hi Matt!
Also you would need a sound card capable of communicating with MiniDisk recorders. I suggest 'Sound Blaster Live!' or 'SBL! Value'. It has built-in interface for minidisk recording and all needed jacks and it comes with audio editors.

Software that can play(sing) the lyrics thus imitating a singer?

Posted by Christian on Wed, 11/17/1999 - 15:49.

Hi,

Sometime ago while sirfing the Net I stumbled on a
shareware software for McIntosh which was able to
receive lyrics and notes as input and perform (sing)
the lyrics as a singer, but I forgot the name and
place I saw that program. Is there anybody who can
direct me to the right place?

Thanks!
CH

Re: Software that can play(sing) the lyrics thus imitating a sin

Posted by C.J on Thu, 11/18/1999 - 10:01.

: Hi,

: Sometime ago while sirfing the Net I stumbled on a
: shareware software for McIntosh which was able to
: receive lyrics and notes as input and perform (sing)
: the lyrics as a singer, but I forgot the name and
: place I saw that program. Is there anybody who can
: direct me to the right place?

: Thanks!
: CH
____________________________________

VocalWriter can do that, -but the voice gets kind of "computeric".

I think you can download a 15 day trial here, on SMM, otherwise on download.com
/C.J

Re: Software that can play(sing) the lyrics thus imitating a sin

Posted by Mike on Thu, 11/18/1999 - 23:38.

: : Hi,

: : Sometime ago while sirfing the Net I stumbled on a
: : shareware software for McIntosh which was able to
: : receive lyrics and notes as input and perform (sing)
: : the lyrics as a singer, but I forgot the name and
: : place I saw that program. Is there anybody who can
: : direct me to the right place?

: : Thanks!
: : CH
: ____________________________________

: VocalWriter can do that, -but the voice gets kind of "computeric".

: I think you can download a 15 day trial here, on SMM, otherwise on download.com
: /C.J

You can get VocalWriter at <a href="http://www.hitsquad.com/smm/programs/VocalWriter_mac/">http://www.hitsquad.com/smm/programs/VocalWriter_mac/</a>
and there's another one called SING 202 for Macintosh which you can get at <a href="http://www.hitsquad.com/smm/programs/SING_mac/">http://www.hitsquad.com/smm/programs/SING_mac/</a>

Plugin manager

Posted by Peter on Wed, 11/17/1999 - 08:28.

Hi there, does anyone know a good DirectX plugin manager?
I need a tool to remove unwanted plugins, but most of them come with an uninstaller for a complete package not single plugs....

TIA
Peter

Re: Plugin manager

Posted by nightfishing on Wed, 11/17/1999 - 19:55.

CHeck out the DX Man at

http://www.analogx.com

: Hi there, does anyone know a good DirectX plugin manager?
: I need a tool to remove unwanted plugins, but most of them come with an uninstaller for a complete package not single plugs....

: TIA
: Peter

None of the downloads work!!1

Posted by WD on Wed, 11/17/1999 - 07:31.

[The body of this post has been reconstituted from replies so it may differ from what was originally written.]

Every file I try to download off this site doesn't work! I use Getright and it says that the target is a web page, even though it is a .zip or .exe file. It's really pissing me off. Can someone fill me in on why this might be happening and if there is anyway I can avoid it?
Thanks

Re: None of the downloads work!!1

Posted by WD on Wed, 11/17/1999 - 07:39.

Sorry! My apologies...I've figured it out..I'm just a little slow on the uptake sometimes :-)

: Every file I try to download off this site doesn't work! I use Getright and it says that the target is a web page, even though it is a .zip or .exe file. It's really pissing me off. Can someone fill me in on why this might be happening and if there is anyway I can avoid it?

: Thanks

Re: None of the downloads work!!1

Posted by Geoff on Wed, 11/17/1999 - 23:42.

Hi,

What was your solution? Maybe there are other people here who have had similar problems.

Cheers
Geoff

: Sorry! My apologies...I've figured it out..I'm just a little slow on the uptake sometimes :-)

:
: : Every file I try to download off this site doesn't work! I use Getright and it says that the target is a web page, even though it is a .zip or .exe file. It's really pissing me off. Can someone fill me in on why this might be happening and if there is anyway I can avoid it?

: : Thanks

Gigasampler DLL file

Posted by Warren on Wed, 11/17/1999 - 05:53.

I need a Windows 98 DLL file EWCTL32.DLL
Mine seems to be corrupted and I don't know where else to look....HELP!!!

Warren

Re: Gigasampler DLL file

Posted by i need it on Tue, 09/25/2001 - 01:40.

: I need a Windows 98 DLL file PNGU3263.DLL
: Mine seems to be corrupted and I don't know where else to look....HELP!!!

: Warren

Re: Gigasampler DLL file

Posted by jesse traut on Tue, 09/25/2001 - 01:38.

: I need a Windows 98 DLL file PNGU3263.DLL
: Mine seems to be corrupted and I don't know where else to look....HELP!!!

: Warren

Re: Gigasampler DLL file

Posted by kenneth w brown dav on Tue, 08/21/2001 - 08:28.

: I need a Windows 98 DLL file EWCTL32.DLL
: Mine seems to be corrupted and I don't know where else to look....HELP!!!

: Warren

Re: Gigasampler DLL file

Posted by kenneth w brown dav on Tue, 08/21/2001 - 08:31.

: : I need a Windows 98 DLL file EWCTL32.DLL
: : Mine seems to be corrupted and I don't know where else to look....HELP!!!

: : Warren

lost windows 98 dll file, msvbvm60dll on startup!

Re: Gigasampler DLL file

Posted by Ron on Wed, 02/21/2001 - 00:22.

: I need a Windows 98 DLL file EWCTL32.DLL
: Mine seems to be corrupted and I don't know where else to look....HELP!!!

: Warren

Hi
I also need help
thanks
Ron

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